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Havana Syndrome and the Truth Behind U.S. Intelligence | Conspiracies & Coverups | Discovery
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0:12
It came just after the new year.
0:15
>> The American surgical attack on
0:16
Venezuela that captured President
0:18
Nicholas Maduro.
0:20
We all remember hearing the story.
0:22
Nearly a hundred foreign soldiers
0:24
decimated by a small strike team of
0:26
special operators in and out in less
0:29
than 30 minutes. But then in the
0:30
aftermath, we remember hearing about
0:32
something else just as striking.
0:34
Venezuelan soldiers attacked by some
0:36
kind of invisible powerful weapon that
0:39
left them on the ground bleeding from
0:41
their nose and vomiting blood.
0:48
As these reports spread online, it
0:50
wasn't long before they were tied to
0:52
other strange attacks. Attacks that
0:55
began more than a decade ago. Only this
0:58
time, the targets weren't foreign
1:00
soldiers. They were Americans. It's even
1:03
got a name, Havana Syndrome.
1:06
>> American diplomats serving in Cuba may
1:08
have been the target of deliberate
1:09
attacks. several suffering symptoms that
1:11
the State Department has not elaborated
1:13
on.
1:14
>> Since the attacks became public, the US
1:16
has pulled out more than half its
1:17
diplomatic personnel from Havana. Were
1:20
American diplomats and intelligence
1:22
officers targeted by the same kind of
1:24
invisible weapon that could have been
1:25
used in Venezuela? Some US intelligence
1:28
agencies have downplayed the idea for
1:30
years, but other parts of the US federal
1:33
government and the victims themselves
1:35
believe otherwise. Every single person I
1:38
have met thinks it's real and thinks
1:40
that there is a culture of conspiracy to
1:42
to cover it up.
1:43
>> Are we really under threat from some
1:45
kind of new devastating invisible
1:47
weapon? What isn't the government
1:49
telling us and why? And I've tracked
1:52
down someone who is willing to tell her
1:54
story.
2:00
I'm here to meet with a woman named
2:02
Alice who describes herself as a Havana
2:04
syndrome survivor and a whistleblower.
2:06
She's only been out of the agency for a
2:08
few years, but she believes that she may
2:10
have been pushed out because of her
2:12
condition. Not every person who
2:14
experienced Havana syndrome effects was
2:16
in Cuba. Alice was based in a West
2:18
African country when she claims she was
2:21
hit. Can you just take me back to what
2:25
life was like the day before everything
2:27
started?
2:29
>> I was working for the whole day and at
2:31
night I came home and then I heard the
2:33
noise. It was kind of a low pulsating
2:37
sound almost like a reverb and I asked
2:39
my spouse at the time like, "Hey, do you
2:41
hear that weird noise?" And he said,
2:42
"What noise?" And that should have been
2:44
the first clue that something was up.
2:46
And so I went back into the room that I
2:48
had been in. And as soon as I walked
2:49
into the room, I experienced vertigo.
2:52
The room was spinning. I had a lot of
2:54
pressure in my left ear, a lot of pain.
2:57
I got less and less conscious. My like
3:00
field of vision was narrowing. I knew I
3:02
needed to get out of the house. And I
3:05
opened the door expecting to hear the
3:06
sound outside and it was quiet and that
3:09
was terrifying like cuz I assumed the
3:12
sound was coming from outside of course
3:14
and that that was odd too. Um, so I got
3:17
back into the house and I went up the
3:19
stairs, turned the lights off and I
3:21
stayed below the window and uh tried to
3:24
go to sleep and then next morning I woke
3:27
up and I had work to do. By that
3:29
afternoon I couldn't walk straight. I
3:32
was really dizzy. I felt like I was on a
3:34
boat and I knew something was really
3:35
wrong. So the next morning I went into
3:38
the embassy medical unit and I'll never
3:41
forget this woman went immediately to
3:45
call my boss and start the process of
3:46
medically evacuating us to America
3:48
straight away.
3:49
>> Wow.
3:52
>> What are some of the types of long-term
3:55
physical symptoms?
3:56
>> For me, um, some of the biggest things
3:58
are chronic migraines 5 days a week.
4:00
I've been in the ER a couple times in
4:02
the last month. um insomnia. My
4:05
cognitive processing is not what it used
4:07
to be. And that's really hard cuz it's
4:09
so essential to our identities.
4:12
I found out after the fact that there
4:14
had been multiple people affected in the
4:16
region, including in the country I was
4:18
in before me, but I didn't know it at
4:20
that time. Cases of American government
4:22
officials experiencing invisible attacks
4:25
have been reported in about a dozen
4:26
locations after Havana, including
4:29
Guangha China Moscow Austria
4:31
Colombia, Syria, and even here in the US
4:34
in Washington DC, just outside the White
4:38
House.
4:40
>> For a lot of us, it became apparent from
4:43
the get-go just how consistent our
4:46
experiences were. So you're saying that
4:48
essentially people reported the
4:49
experience of being attacked.
4:51
>> Yeah.
4:51
>> Individualized, intentional,
4:54
>> but also there were a number of key
4:56
trends in terms of what people worked
4:58
on. There was an abundance of people um
5:02
that were experts on the Russian target
5:03
that had all served together in Ukraine
5:06
in 2014. Interesting. Right.
5:08
>> So among that group of people
5:11
>> Mhm.
5:12
>> there's also parallels in what they were
5:14
experts in.
5:15
>> Correct. I think the world talks about
5:18
these possible attacks as if they are
5:20
tactical attacks, right? I want to hurt
5:22
you right now, but you're layering in
5:25
this question that makes me wonder if it
5:27
also isn't a strategic attack, a
5:30
long-term
5:32
attack.
5:33
>> And I think you're spot on. The
5:34
Russians, they're incredibly creative
5:37
and quite good at doing things that can
5:40
really affect a person but not
5:43
necessarily kill them
5:44
>> because there's a psychological warfare
5:46
advantage.
5:47
>> Yeah, for sure. It's kind of a perfect
5:49
weapon right?
5:53
Russia is often the first suspect
5:55
because they've done things like this
5:57
before. During the Cold War, US
5:59
officials discovered that something was
6:01
being directed at the American embassy
6:02
in Moscow from a nearby building.
6:05
>> Hidden somewhere in this apartment
6:06
building across the street are
6:08
instruments American experts believe are
6:10
aiming microwaves at the upper floors of
6:12
the embassy. The incident became known
6:14
as the Moscow signal. For decades,
6:17
something invisible was aimed at the
6:19
embassy, but no one could say for sure
6:21
why. The motives are still being
6:23
debated. It may have been to jam our
6:25
eavesdropping devices. The official
6:27
explanation was that the signal was too
6:29
weak to cause harm. But not everyone
6:32
believed that because for years those
6:34
signals weren't just filling the air,
6:36
they were focusing on a single building.
6:39
And that raises a much bigger question.
6:41
If decades ago something like that could
6:43
be aimed at a building, could it be
6:45
aimed at a person today?
6:49
I'm on my way to meet with a good friend
6:51
of mine who lives a very private life.
6:54
He's got a job that's pretty high
6:55
stakes. So, he keeps a very small
6:57
digital online footprint intentionally.
7:01
So, to truly carry out an experiment
7:03
that tests whether or not an individual
7:05
can be targeted when they don't want to
7:07
be targeted, he's the perfect candidate.
7:12
Matt, give me a sense of what you think
7:15
your level of security, your level of
7:17
privacy is.
7:18
>> My whole household, my wife, myself, my
7:20
kids, we're pretty under the radar. At
7:22
least I I think so. I have no social
7:24
media accounts. I really try to stay off
7:27
of online platforms just in general.
7:29
>> You're one of the most private people
7:31
that I know. So, I would love to fold
7:33
you in on this.
7:35
>> I'd be happy to help.
7:36
>> So, just live your daily life like
7:38
normal.
7:38
>> And then what we'll do is we'll meet up
7:40
again in a couple days and I'll tell you
7:43
what we are or are not able to find out.
7:50
If you want to locate someone who
7:51
doesn't want to be found, Jake Gray is
7:54
your man.
7:54
>> Welcome in.
7:56
>> Thanks for having me.
7:57
>> A former law enforcement officer, he's
7:59
hunted terrorists, cartel members, and
8:02
sex traffickers, and now works in
8:04
private intelligence.
8:06
>> I'm really trying to dig deeper into the
8:09
Havana attacks that have been reported
8:11
not only by the press, but also by
8:13
individuals in government. Can you tell
8:15
me how technical evidence kind of
8:17
cascades? how you build a big picture
8:19
from just a little bit of information.
8:21
>> We start targeting signals interception,
8:23
right? Tracking cellular devices,
8:25
watches, tablets. Then we start doing
8:28
dump and breach datas. Then we send guys
8:30
out to figure out what the areas like,
8:32
where their house is like, is
8:33
surveillance an option, is a single
8:35
target an option, um where we use tech
8:38
like RF sniffers to to track people in
8:40
their houses. Utilizing all that
8:42
information brings together a totality
8:45
of the target and how we would act after
8:48
that.
8:49
>> What percentage of people would you say
8:50
actually have a technical profile that
8:54
you couldn't identify
8:57
>> outside of your your tribesmen, right?
9:00
Like that don't even know what
9:01
technology is, you know, it's probably
9:05
less than a percent that
9:07
>> less than touch. Yeah. Basically, if
9:09
you're connected to technology in any
9:11
way, I will find you.
9:15
>> Many Havana syndrome victims were living
9:17
overseas and undercover. In other words,
9:20
tough to find, but not that tough for
9:22
Jake to find. He's showing us how with
9:25
our guinea pig, Matt. The first step is
9:28
geoloccating Matt's phone and tracking
9:30
its movements.
9:32
Then, Jake puts boots on the ground to
9:34
follow the digital breadcrumbs to
9:36
identify him.
9:39
From there, Jake can begin to unlock his
9:41
online history and create a profile,
9:44
which may be enough to target him. So,
9:47
we have here geoloccation data that we
9:49
talked about before, able to target
9:51
devices from that phone number you gave
9:52
me. If we zoom in here, this is where he
9:55
lives. If you follow these dots that
9:58
were dropped from the device, he takes
10:01
this route here down this road all the
10:04
way till he gets to where we've
10:06
established his place of employment at.
10:08
>> Wow, look at all that data
10:10
>> just here. And we think these are lunch
10:12
spots right down the road.
10:14
>> What else did this give you?
10:16
>> So, we have a few interesting places
10:19
which you have these signals here which
10:20
goes to a a school, you know, where his
10:23
kids are. And if he's gone and we wanted
10:25
to target that, we could.
10:26
>> I know this guy. His number one priority
10:29
is protecting his kids. And you found
10:32
his kid's school.
10:33
>> Yep.
10:33
>> That's like every person's nightmare.
10:35
>> Yeah.
10:36
>> What do we do next?
10:38
>> Physical surveillance. At this point, we
10:40
go to his house, his work, figure out
10:42
where we can truly target him. And
10:44
something that we can use to do that is
10:47
an RF sniffer.
10:47
>> What does that mean in layman's terms?
10:49
>> So everybody that has internet has a
10:51
Wi-Fi router, right?
10:53
That Wi-Fi router just pushes out RF
10:56
frequencies, which are like little, you
10:58
know, imagine like little waves moving
11:00
through your house at all times. The RF
11:02
sniffer measures the disturbance in
11:04
those waves, and I can follow those
11:07
disturbances or that person through
11:09
their house
11:10
>> in real time.
11:11
>> In real time.
11:12
>> And we're going to do that to our
11:15
target.
11:15
>> Yep.
11:17
Most Havana syndrome victims say they
11:19
were hit at home and targeted very
11:22
precisely. Remember Alice heard the
11:24
noise her husband standing next to her
11:26
didn't hear.
11:27
>> And I asked my spouse at the time like,
11:29
"Hey, did you hear that weird noise?"
11:30
And he said, "What noise?"
11:32
>> Assuming there was a weapon, it must
11:34
have had pinpoint accuracy. So, we're
11:36
heading to Matt's house where Jake is
11:38
going to show me how he uses his RF
11:40
sniffer to target individuals room by
11:43
room.
11:44
>> It's right up here. Yep. Right. Right up
11:45
here on the other side of that, I see
11:46
that truck.
11:57
This feels creepy, man. That's my friend
11:59
in there, and I'm in a blacked out car
12:01
across the street. All right, so what's
12:04
next?
12:05
>> We're going to break out the uh the RF
12:07
sniffer, see if we can capture some some
12:09
movement.
12:10
>> All right, you ready?
12:11
>> Yeah, let's do it.
12:16
What is the sniffer doing right now?
12:18
>> Right now, I'm setting up the uh the
12:20
prompt for it to attack the router to
12:23
then run its code, run its script to
12:26
send us back the uh the signals that
12:29
we're looking to intercept.
12:32
So, here you go. Okay,
12:34
>> Jake's showing me how each green dot
12:36
represents a different person in the
12:38
house. We can tell where they are based
12:40
on how close they are to the red dot,
12:42
the Wi-Fi router. This isn't a weapon.
12:45
It's a tracking tool. But it proves how
12:47
precisely a house's occupants can be
12:49
mapped.
12:50
>> See how it's going down?
12:51
>> Exactly. That lower right quadrant is
12:54
very clearly that corner of the house.
12:56
>> Yep.
12:57
>> Every time that red dot jumps, it's
12:59
essentially picking up on another
13:01
movement in the house.
13:02
>> Correct.
13:03
>> So, it's always a red dot, but it could
13:06
be jumping from person to person,
13:07
>> person to person. So, if we wanted to
13:10
hit a target with some kind of weapon,
13:15
we would want to aim for the room with
13:18
the router and we want to aim now
13:21
because that's where the most activity
13:23
is happening.
13:25
>> If your goal is to not care about
13:27
collateral damage. Yeah.
13:29
>> Wow. But this is what it looks like. We
13:31
don't see a face. We don't see a
13:33
physical description. We get a dot.
13:36
>> We get a dot. I can see how an adversary
13:38
would take the shot.
13:40
>> It's just an invisible weapon. So to the
13:43
world, nothing happened. A family got
13:45
sick.
13:47
>> Can't see it, can't hear it. Nobody
13:49
knows you were there.
13:51
>> If we wanted to hyper isolate our target
13:53
even more.
13:54
>> Mhm.
13:54
>> How would we do that?
13:56
>> Find a choke point to where it's
13:58
strictly him.
13:59
>> Do you see a choke point in his pattern
14:01
of life?
14:01
>> I do.
14:02
>> Where?
14:03
>> Where he parks every single day when he
14:04
goes to work. He parks in the same spot
14:06
every day.
14:07
>> Same spot. And it's basically three
14:10
walls and one exit.
14:11
>> So, you want to try to get him at work
14:12
instead?
14:13
>> That's where I would do it.
14:14
>> Nobody's expects it in the middle of the
14:16
day either.
14:16
>> And he's in a he's in a killbox.
14:22
When somebody talks about a high power
14:24
microwave, how is that different from
14:26
the microwave that sits in my kitchen?
14:28
really high power microwaves are made to
14:30
operate at extremely high powers tens
14:34
hundreds thousands of megawws but
14:37
because of that short pulses and that's
14:40
the basis of what's happening I believe
14:42
with Havana syndrome imagine you have
14:45
this intense power and it hits the side
14:48
of your brain and you get a almost
14:50
instantaneous heating of a thin layer in
14:52
your brain it will initially expand
14:55
it'll overshoot like a spring it'll come
14:57
back and then it'll return and you can
14:59
oscillate for a while that can basically
15:02
convert the incoming electromagnetic
15:05
energy into a soundwave. These pulse
15:09
high power microwaves are a wireless
15:13
system for shaking the brain
15:15
>> and that would do so much damage over
15:17
time.
15:17
>> You can go all the way from damage to
15:21
lowercase disorientation and some of the
15:24
other cognitive effects that they've
15:26
experienced. It's obviously, according
15:28
to some of the sufferers of u of these
15:31
attacks, done some real long-term damage
15:33
to them.
15:34
>> Dr. Swiggle tells me that even though
15:36
microwaves are silent, the oscillation
15:38
they cause in the brain can be
15:39
experienced as a sound, which may be why
15:43
many Havana syndrome victims describe
15:45
having heard a noise. How mobile are
15:48
these devices really, and what do they
15:51
look like? This is an example sitting on
15:54
a desktop of a commercial device that's
15:56
being sold by the Russians. This is not
15:59
that large a system sitting there. You
16:01
can make it to operate off a car
16:02
generator. A friend of his took this
16:05
picture where devices like this are
16:06
made. This REAN device can generate
16:09
intense pulses of radiation and be
16:11
optimized for anti-personnel operations.
16:14
This thing looks like a shoulder fired
16:16
weapon, which means for sure I could
16:18
position it in a van, put it in a car,
16:20
put it in a room, in a window across the
16:24
street from a target. You can be hit.
16:27
You can't protect yourself under the
16:29
circumstances that they choose to hit
16:31
you.
16:31
>> When you hear about victims of Havana
16:33
syndrome, do you believe their story? Do
16:37
you doubt their story?
16:39
>> They have suffered something. Do I
16:41
believe it could be high power
16:42
microwaves? I believe there's a very
16:44
good chance microwaves could have
16:47
produced this and that devices that are
16:49
out there could have been adapted to do
16:53
that job. The idea of the government
16:56
beaming something into your head is one
16:58
of the oldest conspiracy theories out
16:59
there. As far back as 1927, a science
17:03
fiction novel called The Tissue Cult
17:04
King imagined a man who wore metallic
17:07
headgear to protect himself from outside
17:09
mental influence. what would eventually
17:11
evolve into the pop culture image we all
17:13
know today, the tinfoil hat. Today,
17:16
those ideas show up in online
17:18
communities that believe they're being
17:20
targeted by so-called energy weapons and
17:22
had thoughts beamed into their minds.
17:25
But there's little evidence to support
17:26
those claims at scale. And that's where
17:29
things get complicated. How do you
17:30
investigate, let alone prove something,
17:32
when the injuries are in people's heads?
17:36
When symptoms are real, but the cause is
17:38
invisible, it becomes incredibly
17:40
difficult to separate what's possible
17:42
from what's provable. In a case like
17:44
Havana syndrome, that line matters. And
17:47
once that line starts to blur, even
17:49
experts can disagree on what's really
17:51
happening.
