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0:00Hey there, Aubrey. How's it going today? I'm
great, Lindsay. How are you? Good. We are
0:04here for a special bonus episode episode today.
What are we getting into for our listeners? Yes,
0:10we're excited to talk about this. Lindsay, do you
ever find yourself in a group and you really want
0:15to participate, but you didn't feel confident with
your vocabulary? I know this is sometimes. Yeah,
0:22for sure. Right. I mean, I know when I was
traveling Latin America, speaking in Spanish,
0:26there were times when I did want to say was what
was on my mind, but I was worried. I just couldn't
0:31quite come up with the right precise words. Yeah.
Or even kind of try to think of what I would want
0:36to say and try and, you know, have that sentence
ready and I just wouldn't be able to think of the
0:40vocab. This is a very common experience for many
people learning a language. And we want you to
0:46be able to move from being a spectator, especially
in group conversations, to be able to participate,
0:52to be able to jump in and connect. Yes. Exactly.
We want to be in the driver's seat of our own
0:58lives. I think that's what comes down what it
comes down to, Aubrey. Don't you think? Yes.
1:02It's really terrible to feel like you're being
overlooked, whether that's in a social situation,
1:08maybe at a party or at work, to feel on the
outside with co-workers or friends when you want
1:15to feel connected. You want to feel like you're
a part of the conversation. Yeah. But in order
1:20to get there, there are certain things we have to
do. We can't just, you know, say mantras and wish
1:24that it were true, right? We have to actually
practice in the right way with the right plan.
1:30Exactly. Right. knowing the right words and then
being able to recall them fast enough and feeling
1:36confident enough to dive in and use them. All of
these are skills that must be practiced. We can't
1:42just hope to have them and suddenly magically we
have them. Yeah. So, what are our listeners going
1:47to get from today's episode? Yeah. We're going to
give you three tips that you can do to immediately
1:53jump into conversations. We can't, you know, yes,
there's a lot of work. There's a lot that needs
1:58to be done in order to know all of the vocabulary
you want to know. There are things you could do
2:03if you're going to a party tonight to be able to
jump into that conversation. Yes, I love it. And
2:09at the end of the episode, we'll tell you about
a special offer available this week only on our
2:13highest level fluency bundle. So, we'll give you
the link. We'll give you all the information at
2:18the end of the episode. So, stay tuned in right
here with us. So, Abri, what is the first thing
2:23we can do then to start to Yeah. Yes. is to don't
over complicate. Don't feel like you have to use
2:30the biggest, most impressive words, right? Use
simple words and then explain around any gaps,
2:35right? You don't need the perfect word. You can
describe the idea. Native speakers do this all
2:41the time. Often the word's just on the tip of
our tongue and we can't come up with it. So,
2:45we sort of explain it. And I love this idea
because it actually has some side benefits.
2:51If you describe the idea instead of getting the
exact correct word, you're actually going to
2:56improve your vocabulary more. Right. Absolutely.
U I used to have another business where we had
3:01students that we were working with and we created
an activity called say it another way. And what
3:05the students had to do is they had to come up
with different ways to say the same thing. And
3:10that helped fluency incredibly. Yes. It's such a
great skill to practice, right? And you, this will
3:18not flag you as like a language learner or a lower
level learner because native speakers do this. I
3:23did this just the other day when I couldn't think
of a name of a show. I was like, it's the one with
3:27Tom Cruz where he and I had to sort of describe
the whole thing because I couldn't think of the
3:32name of it. We do this a lot. 100% native speakers
do this, too. Absolutely. Right. I do this a lot.
3:37It's just sometimes the mind just forgets the word
and we go around circles, but then all this other
3:42vocab comes up. Right. Exactly. Okay. So, we're
going to give you a couple phrases to do this. So,
3:48first of all, if it's a noun, if it's like a
thing you could describe, you could say it's
3:53the thing you use to and then just describe
that, right? Share pancakes or whatever it is,
3:59right? Exactly. Yep. Or I mean the situation
where XYZ. So, that sets you up really nicely,
4:07these two uh frames to actually give that detail.
Yes. And then like mine, if it is a show or a book
4:14or a podcast, it's the one where and then name
an actor, describe the plot, right? And let the
4:20other person jump in and help you remember the
name of it. Yeah. It becomes more collaborative,
4:24right? More connection based actually because
what is connection in the end? I think connection
4:29is creating language together so you can share
your lives. It's not one seemingly very smart
4:36person coming up with these brilliant words and
impressing everyone else. Exactly. In fact, if
4:42you do that, right, if you're seesipidelian, we've
talked about that, using these big words that no
4:47one knows, that might kill the connection. Whereas
this collaborative approach, it keeps you in the
4:52conversation. It gives you the confidence to jump
in and participate instead of silently observing.
4:58And it also kind of low it lowers the nervousness,
the anxiety because imagine if you do come up with
5:03that brilliant, precise word the first time. Then
now everyone sees you as this articulate, smart
5:08person and now you have to continue to pull that
off for the rest of Nobody needs that pressure. We
5:14don't need that pressure. Set the bar low. I set
the bar low for myself. Set let's just say set
5:21the bar differently. Right. There you go. Set the
bar differently. Okay, let's jump into number two
5:25because this is so key. And it is to ask short,
relevant follow-up questions. Remember that you
5:32don't have to add new information to join into a
conversation. You can keep it moving by inviting
5:38the other person to talk more or interjecting
something in a natural way. And really, you should
5:43do this because they say people who are interested
in other people become more interesting. Right.
5:49So, be interested to become interesting. Exactly.
Right. If you do nothing but ask these follow-up
5:55questions in a conversation and then you all
go your separate ways, everyone will remember
6:00you as being someone that cared about them,
that was interested in their story, that was
6:05participating in the conversation. Yeah. And the
truth is, it's shockingly rare. I know come across
6:11this. It's shockingly rare that someone is really
hanging on with you and they do ask you, they want
6:16to know more. Right. Often what people are trying
to do, unfortunately, I don't mean to be cynical,
6:21but it is reality. They're just waiting.
They're thinking about what they want to say,
6:26right? We can't help it. We all have egos. It's
hard to fight it, right? Sure, we do. But yes,
6:31be the person that's interested, that asks
these follow-up questions that makes people feel
6:36like you really care about what they're saying.
Exactly. So, some things that we can say, again,
6:41these little introjections to keep the person
speaking, give us more detail on their story.
6:46You could say, "Then what happened?" Right? Yes.
Or, "Wait, where was this?" Right? Because often,
6:52especially if they haven't shared that detail, if
they haven't shared where they were or what year
6:57it was, right? Wait, when when did that happen?
Right? It shows not only that you're listening,
7:03but you actually want more details, right? Wait,
when was this? Or wait, where was this? Right? So,
7:08you're trying you're showing that you're trying to
uh orient your mind into the context of the story,
7:13right? That's really good. Yeah. or speaking about
other people's reactions. How did he react? Right?
7:20You did something, the person shares that they
did something and then you want to know it's
7:24like a cliffhanger. So, how did he react? What
happened? Or what did she say? Right? Because
7:28when someone's telling a story, it always still
should be a back and forth, but it's often up to
7:34the listener to make it a back and forth, right?
I do this really often. and they're giving these
7:38interesting details and if something is sort of
surprising or I'm excited to know what's next,
7:43I'm going to say like are really what what did
he say? How did they react? That's a good point,
7:49Aubrey. It's up to the listener to make it a back
and forth because the speaker of the story is busy
7:54telling the story, right? Trying and it's often
awkward for them to ask sort of like a question.
7:58They're telling a story, right? But you can
ask interesting questions. Love it. So good.
8:03So good. Um, so what else do we need to know here?
Yeah. Well, it's just interesting to think about
8:08why this helps so much, right? It requires very
little vocabulary, just these simple sentences,
8:13and it buys you time to process language or think
of vocabulary. So, you're participating while
8:20also kind of giving yourself a chance to think of
what you could say. So, it's sort of just like a
8:26double-edged sword in a positive way. It makes you
sound engaged and confident. It keeps you having
8:32to be quiet so you have something to say. Ask
questions until you have something to add. Yes,
8:39100%. As you as our listeners can probably
hear, the famous Kefir is making himself
8:43known. He has something to say about this topic
today. So, apologies. I want to be part of the
8:49conversation. He does. He really does. Um,
good. So, these are really important pieces.
8:54And then what would be number three? Our third
tip, Aubrey? Yes. Three is to be in a course,
9:02to be learning vocabulary very proactively.
And we right now have this bundle available,
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10:16Wow. We need to know where to go to get into
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I love it. And any final takeaways for the
10:47episode today? Yeah, like you were saying,
Lindsay, conversation is about connection,
10:52not precision. Right. It's all It's not about
using big words, super impressive vocabulary.
10:58It's about having the confidence and the fluency
to dive in and connect in English. And today's
11:04tips are going to help you do that. Beautiful.
So guys, go on over to allsersenglish.com/b2c1.
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11:26and you could be on looking towards the C2 level
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11:33I do too. I'm excited for you guys to move from
observing conversations and feeling like you're
11:39an outsider to feeling like you are part of
the conversation. That confidence to dive
11:44in and make connections in English. All right,
really good stuff today, Aubrey. And thank you,
11:49Kefir, for joining us on the episode. So,
well, have a good rest of your day, Aubrey,
11:54and thanks for being on the show today. Awesome.
All right, see you guys next time. Bye bye.
