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Rumors abound before the release of any
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Marvel movie, but [music] there was a
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spectacular number of them for
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Spider-Man: Brand New Day. Some
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outlandish reports turned out to be
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true, but a whole lot more were wildly,
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shockingly off. Warning, spoilers ahead.
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Marvel and Sony brought some of these
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wild rumors on themselves. By not
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actually revealing who Sadesc was
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playing in the movie until its release,
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they pretty much invited speculation to
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run rampant. The studios announced that
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Sink had been cast all the way back in
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March 2025. So, people had over a year
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to dig through every fan wiki on Earth
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to come up with [music] theories.
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>> I've known for so long, and I've kept it
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a secret.
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>> One of the persistent rumors was the
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character actually turned out to be, Gan
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Gray of the X-Men. But there was a long
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list of other options that got traction.
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Because Sink's a redhead, and also
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because this multiverse thing is still
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going on, lots of folks believed she was
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playing an alternate universe [music]
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version of Mary Jane Watson. Others
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figured she'd be Peter Parker's old
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flame, Gwen Stacy, who famously died in
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the comics all the way back in 1973. An
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alternate universe version of Gwen is in
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the Spider-Verse movies, so why not
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here? There were plenty of other
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theories Sink would be playing a
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different version of Spiderwoman or
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Spider-girl. In particular, the name
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Mayday Parker popped up quite a bit.
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That takes some messing around with time
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travel and/or interdimensional shifting,
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though. [music] In the comics, Mayday is
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an alternate universe version of Peter's
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daughter, who became Spidergirl. There
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was also [music] a version of Spidergirl
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from the Ultimate Marvel universe who
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was a clone of Peter. We even got webbed
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into believing that was Sink's [music]
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character for a minute. Just sounded too
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weird not to be true. But the wildest
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pull from all the potential roles for
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Sink is Shathra. Who's Shathra, you ask?
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Why, she's a toemic wasp goddess who
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sometimes terrorizes Spidey and his
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Spider-Verse pals. That one was also
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compelling being so wildly specific in
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left field. One of the most persistent
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rumor slingers on X, Daniel RPK, said he
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thought the Shathra rumor was an
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intentional misdirect leak from Marvel
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to [music] throw fans off the scent of
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Gan Gray. The reveal in the first Brand
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New Day trailer that Peter [music]
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Parker was going through some kind of
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genetic mutation that was altering his
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body immediately got fans thinking of
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the [music] comic story, The Other. That
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story finds Peter going through dizzy
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spells and having weird dreams, which
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turn [music] out to be the result of a
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radiation-driven disease.
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>> What is happening to me? After Spidey
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takes a serious beating from the villain
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Morlin, Peter [music] appears to die.
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But he's then reborn, shedding his skin
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and emerging with new powers that make
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him even more like a spider. [music]
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That's one reason fans seem to believe
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Spider-Man would kick the bucket in
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Brand New Day. If he died in the movie,
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as he did in the other, that means
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[music] he'd come back even stronger
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after a sort of cocoon process, which
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kind of happens without the death part.
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Public statements from star Tom Holland,
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meanwhile, had fans worrying that Peter
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was going to [music] permanently buy the
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farm. Holland was publicly speculating
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on who he'd like to be as replacement to
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Spidey in interviews. [music] He had
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said previously that if he's still
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playing Spider-Man in his 30s, he had
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done something wrong. Some fans and
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writers for websites became convinced
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that Brand New Day would be Holland's
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last Spidey movie, but that's all just
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speculation. [music]
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It's also been speculated Holland signed
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a deal to star in two more Spider-Man
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solo films after Brand New Day, plus
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three other MCU movies. You got to have
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Spider-Man at Secret Wars, don't you?
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That's unconfirmed, though. Holland has
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said he'll keep playing Spidey as long
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as they'll have him. [music] Whatever
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the case, Peter sure doesn't die in
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Brand New Day, though he does take a
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bullet from The Punisher. Honestly, it'd
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[music] be weird to give the movie where
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Spider-Man dies that title. Count us as
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having been suckered in by this one,
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too. Almost as soon as Brand New Day was
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announced, speculation began that the
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Chinese gangster Mr. Negative [music]
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would be at the heart of it. And there
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was good reason to believe it. The
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comics initiative that Brand New Day is
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named after both introduced and heavily
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featured him as a major villain. Not
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only that, but Spider-Man No Way Home
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introduced Feast, a shelter where
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Peter's aunt May worked to help people
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in need.
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>> I saw Spider-Man in an ad for this
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place,
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and I thought he could help me, but
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you're not him.
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>> In the comics, Beast is owned and
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operated by Martin Lee, who turns out in
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a shocking twist to be the alter ego of
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Mr. [music] Negative. Once promotional
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material for Brand New Day started
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coming out, people became even more
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convinced that Mr. Negative would be
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playing a major role in the movie. The
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day one promo video for the movie
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prominently featured Spidey on a tank
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that sure seemed to have the logo of Mr.
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[music] Negatives gang, the inner demons
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on it. And hey, maybe the tank did come
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from the inner demons, but [music] they
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aren't driving it. In the actual movie,
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it turns out to just be some lady who's
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being mind controlled by Gan Gray the
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whole [music] time. Mr. Negative is
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nowhere to be seen, and the role the
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inner demons could have served is
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instead being handled by the hand. But
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perhaps that tank logo is a tease for a
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future appearance. Rumors don't come out
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of nowhere. Well, sometimes they do, but
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often they come from people piecing
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together the information they have in an
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at least somewhat reasonable way. The
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notion that Scorpion would play a much
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bigger role in Brand New Day and merge
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with the Venom symbiote definitely seems
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to have come from that kind of thought
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process. Michael Mando's return as Matt
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Gargan, [music] his first time back in
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the role since Spider-Man Homecoming,
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was announced all the way back in August
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2025. And the end of Homecoming seemed
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to be building up the Scorpion [music]
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as a serious threat to Spidey. I've got
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some boys on the outside who would love
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to meet him. You know, take a picture,
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slice his throat, put his head in a
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dryer.
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>> Fans knew that Gargan bonded with a
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Venom symbiote for a while in the comics
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back in the 2000s. And wouldn't you know
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it, a piece of Venom's black goo got
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left behind at the end of Spider-Man No
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Way Home. Thanks to dimension hopping
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events in that movie, Eddie Brock
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briefly finds himself in the 616
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universe in a bar in Mexico. He gets
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sent back to his own universe by Doctor
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Strange's spell, but a little piece of
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Venom is left behind. Something has to
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happen with that, right? You'd sure
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think so. Mando even teased as much on
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social media, but it doesn't happen in
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Brand New Day, and it doesn't come
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anywhere near the Scorpion, whose
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rematch with Spidey is little more than
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a stepping stone in the wider plot of
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the movie. Back in the spring, various
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websites reported that Marvel had been
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looking to cast what was repeatedly
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described as an older female antagonist
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for Brand New Day. We think Sarah Snook
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and Anne Hathaway probably wouldn't have
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liked the term older, but their names
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were reported as two actresses who had
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been offered this role. Maybe by older
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they meant older than Peter. Nicole
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Kidman's name also came up in a few
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headlines and Reddit threads. This
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naturally led to a whole bunch of
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theories as to who this antagonist could
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be. Some thought it might be Black Cats,
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though it would be a bit of a change
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from the comics to make her considerably
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older than Spider-Man. She's also more
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of an ally than antagonist most of the
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time. The character a lot of guesses
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ended up landing on was Silver Sable,
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the leader of the mercenary group the
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Wild Pack. Sable's loyalties are always
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to the highest bidder. [music]
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And particularly with Sarah Snook, we
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can kind of see it. But there's no older
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female antagonist to be found. Maybe
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there was an early draft of the script
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with one, but it looks like rewrites and
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casting whiffs, Snook and Hathaway both
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reportedly turned Marvel down led to
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Trel Tilman's Bill Mezer becoming the
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primary bad guy. As casting and
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character details for Brand New Day
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dribbled out, the sheer number of
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villains that seemed set to appear was
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worrisome. Frankly, on top of Mezer,
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Scorpion, a seemingly antagonistic Gan
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Gray, and what appeared to be a Mr.
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Negative appearance, there were also
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Boomerang, Tarantula, Ramrod, Tombstone,
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The Hand, and other rumored baddies like
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Silver Sable, Viper, and even Silver
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Samurai. There were also rumors that
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both Tarantula and Tombstone were the
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secret main villains of the entire
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movie. Marvel never even announced an
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actor for Tarantula before the movie got
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released. [music] As for Tombstone, not
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only would a top bad guy spot be a coup
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for the character role Lonnie Lincoln,
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but it'd be a big step up for actor
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Marvin Jones III, too. Jones played a
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Tombstone like crime boss on the CW
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series Black Lightning, but that's
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pretty different from carrying a
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tentpole MCU film. Ultimately, most of
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the villains who appear are dealt with
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during an opening montage where
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Spider-Man protects New York from
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various criminals. [music] Tombstone's
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appearance is super brief, and it's
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mostly just a nod to the Spider-Verse
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films, in which Jones also voiced
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Tombstone.
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>> You messed up big time, kid. Very
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sloppy. One other villain, though, a
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romantic rival of Peter rather than a
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criminal for Spider-Man to fight,
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thought to be in the movie, was Paul
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Rabin. In the comics, Paul gets together
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with Mary Jane thanks to some convoluted
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dimension hopping stuff. It sure seemed
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like Iman Espondi could have been
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playing Paul. And who knows, maybe he
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was Paul, but if he was, it wasn't all
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that important. He doesn't ever get
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named and is only credited as MJ's
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boyfriend. The first three Tom Holland
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starring Spider-Man movies were all
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helmed by the same director, John Watts.
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For Brand New Day, Watts passed the
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baton to someone who's become one of
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Marvel Studios go-to guys, Destin Daniel
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Cretton's first Marvel project
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was directing Shongi and the Legend of
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the 10 Rings back in 2021. Much more
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recently, Cretton was a key creative
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driving force behind the surprise hit
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Disney Plus series Wonderman. Not only
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directing two episodes, but co-creating
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and executive producing the series. Some
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fans theorized that there had to be a
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reason was the next Spider-Man
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director beyond him simply becoming one
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of Marvel's most reliable creators.
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Maybe, just maybe, [music] Brand New Day
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would be connected to Cretton's other
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work somehow. That led to rumors that
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maybe Simu Leu would appear as Shongi.
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He's a martial arts guy, so he could
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help fight off the inner demons or the
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hand, right? Some also believe that
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Brand New Day could pick on threads
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[music] from Wonderman, either involving
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the teleportation enabling character
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Doorman or Simon Williams himself. But
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nah, Marvel simply picked a director
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they could trust to head up the movie.
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That's [music] it. Okay. Yeah, this one
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got us, too. There were all kinds of
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reasons to think that Charlie Cox's Matt
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Murdoch would be showing up in Brand New
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Day. He was in No Way Home as Peter's
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lawyer. The second season of Daredevil:
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Born Again just set up a new status quo
9:15
for New York City. The Hand, who are
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usually Daredevil villains, are in the
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movie. The Punisher, who first appeared
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in the MCU in the Daredevil Netflix
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series, is in the movie. Add to that
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Cox's cutesy denials when he was asked
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about being in Brand New Day. This is
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exactly the kind of stuff actors say
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when they're trying not to spill the
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beans.
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>> Are you in the movie?
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>> No. If I was in the movie, I would also
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say no, to be clear,
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>> but I'm not in the movie.
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>> Marvel has a long history of editing
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trailers to obscure, hide, or outright
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lie about who's showing up in their
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films. and fans were scouring the brand
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new day trailers to find where Daredevil
9:48
might be hiding in plain sight. One shot
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in particular of Spider-Man facing down
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the hand had a suspiciously empty lower
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corner where the man without fear would
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fit [music] very snugly. But Daredevil
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isn't there nor anywhere else in Brand
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New Day. Cox's Matt Murdoch would
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usually be a welcome addition, but in a
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movie as over stuffed as Brand New Day
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already is, he wouldn't even get all
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that much time to shine. On top of that,
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Matt has assuredly forgotten he was ever
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Peter's lawyer to begin with, thanks to
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the ending of No Way Home. So, we'd have
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to see Peter explain who he is to yet
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another friend. Plus, Born Again season
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2 ended with Matt in prison. Maybe we
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can get a true Spidey Daredevil team up
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somewhere down the road. There just
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wasn't room for it in Brand New Day.
