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Why nonalcoholic wine is so expensive
Why nonalcoholic wine is so expensive
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The data is in. More and more Americans
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are turning away from alcohol and the
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ripple effects are big. Wineries in
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California are going out of business.
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Alcohol companies are scrambling to make
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NA products.
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>> How does it affect the businesses though
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that rely on selling alcohol?
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>> Many are adapting right [music] now.
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>> We basically have modified our entire
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beverage program to accommodate more
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[music] non-alcoholic drinkers.
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>> Heineken made history in 2023
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advertising alcohol-free beer in the
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Super Bowl for the first time. [music]
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But this decline has also led to the
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boom of a whole new industry,
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non-alcoholic wines. Though the price
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tag on these NA wines can be [music]
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pretty steep, often costing even more
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than wine with alcohol. But there's a
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good reason for that markup.
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So, I went to visit my friend Dean, the
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co-owner of an NA bottle shop in LA to
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get the insider's perspective on why
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[music] wine without alcohol is likely
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worth the price.
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So, funny story. Dean actually used to
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work with us here at Box. [music] And it
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turns out you can go from making Box
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videos to being a small business owner.
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>> Hey, Dean.
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>> Hey. What's up?
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>> Beautiful shop.
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>> Thank you. Welcome in.
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>> Wow.
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Honestly, I don't know if I would be
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able to tell that this doesn't have
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alcohol.
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>> Yeah. I mean, I always tell people it's
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like you're not really like losing
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anything when you
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drink non-alcoholic
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>> Yeah.
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>> wine. I feel like the only thing you're
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losing is kind of the cluster headache
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you get later on from alcoholic wine.
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>> This tastes like a pool [music] party.
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>> The artistry kind of comes in with
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reintroducing the flavors and the aroma
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and the texture that kind of gets
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removed sometimes with the alcohol.
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Human beings have been cultivating wine
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for [music] thousands of years. And in
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those thousands of years, wine has
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changed a lot.
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[music]
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Since we've opened, we've seen a huge
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evolution in not only the market, but
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the consumer as well. Only about 54% of
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people in the US drink alcohol. And of
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the people that do drink alcohol, a lot
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of them say they want to drink less. So,
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I kind of embarked on this journey into
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non-alcoholic stuff through uh like
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medical reasons, like I had a heart
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condition um that I had to get uh
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corrective surgery for. So, kind of
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overnight I had to just stop drinking.
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[music]
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>> And Dean's not alone. Alcohol
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consumption in the US has been declining
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every year since 2022. That cutback is
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due to a few factors. One is health
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concerns like what Dean experienced and
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another is related to mental health and
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anxiety. [music]
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And a big part of this shift is
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spearheaded by younger consumers
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choosing to drink less.
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>> I think younger people are just not
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[music] taking to drinking in the same
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way. In terms of market share,
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millennials are actually kind of the
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highest like adopters of NA. But we're
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also seeing a lot of like older
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generations and baby boomers coming in
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whose doctors are telling them it's time
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to like stop drinking those couple
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glasses of whiskey at night.
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>> With all these shifts, Dean saw an
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opportunity. [music] There were a lot of
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non-alcoholic options out there, but
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they were kind of spread out. You had to
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go to like a bunch of different stores
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or buy stuff online. I was kind of
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missing that independent [snorts] cool
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like wine shop experience. And so, we
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just decided [music] to open the store
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that I wished existed when I kind of
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started on this journey into non-elk
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[music] in the first place.
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>> In fact, US sales of non-alcoholic beer,
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wine, [music] and spirits have grown
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over 20% every year since 2022.
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Researchers estimate that the no alcohol
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market will grow to over $4 billion
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[music] by 2028. But the price tag is a
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problem.
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>> Sometimes customers come in and they are
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browsing our wine and they're like, you
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know, this is the same price as some
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alcoholic wine that I see at the store.
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Like, why is it the same if there's no
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alcohol in it? It's actually much more
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expensive to create non-alcoholic wine,
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especially good non-alcoholic wine.
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I know logically it would seem that any
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wine should cost less because you're
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removing something rather than adding to
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it. But if baking wine is difficult,
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making wine without alcohol is like the
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next level of challenge.
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>> This is Dr. Mania, a food scientist who
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is one of the world's leading
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researchers of dealcoholized wine. She
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also works with Swedish NA wine company
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OddBird.
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>> Wine has been with us for 8,000 years.
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It's been part of our culture of our
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celebration of our um scientical
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knowledge and discoveries.
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>> So how exactly does the science of
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removing alcohol work?
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>> The first patents of removing alcohol
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started in 1890s [music]
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and you can do it through different
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technologies like vacuum distillation or
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reverse osmosis [music] or spinning
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cone. The earliest technology was vacuum
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distillation, which basically means
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increasing pressure to lower the boiling
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point of alcohol for evaporation. So
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that will allow for the wine to start
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boiling at a lower temperature below 30°
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and that will allow for the rest of the
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compounds in the wine to not evaporate
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and stay there and not being like
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destroyed. So vacuum distillation uses
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maybe higher energy but it's easier
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[music]
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to preserve the aroma and it's a very
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clean technology. To my knowledge right
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now the most used is vacuum distillation
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[music]
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especially for odds birth. This is what
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we use because we really work with low
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intervention.
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>> Then there's reverse osmosis which
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involves using very fine membranes to
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filter out the hundreds of compounds
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[music] in wine including ethanol. And
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this different compounds has different
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size and this membrane separates by size
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of the compounds. So first separates
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water, ethanol or alcohol and then comes
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the other compounds. You take the
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remaining components and recombine them
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to recreate the wines. Finally, there's
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the spinning cone column. The most
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modern and advanced technique. [music]
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It basically combines the methods in
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vacuum distillation and reverse osmosis
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in a staircase of connected [music]
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cones.
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>> You put a lot of pressure but you also
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have a lot of like membranes thin
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membranes that are in cone and they
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[music] spine. It first capture most of
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the volatile aroma. It starts to trap
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them in that member [music]
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and then remove the ethanol or the
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alcohol and there returns all the
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aromomas to wine. I would say that there
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is no single technologies that it's
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simply the best. But the quality of the
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final wine depends very much on the
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quality of the original wine. So what
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you do with your grapes. So doesn't
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matter which technology you are going to
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choose to use. It's about what what kind
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of wine you want to make.
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>> So yes, alcohol was removed, but the
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product has actually become even more
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video.
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For small business owners like Dean,
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their space is a lot more than just a
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shop. It's a destination to gather, to
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build community, which in a lot of ways
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has [music] always been the goal of
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drinking. We do free tastings every
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weekend so that people can kind of
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actually experience these things instead
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of just kind of hearing about them. But
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also, we do a lot of stuff that's not
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revolving around beverages. We do like a
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book club. We do a monthly poetry
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workshop. We do game nights. We do craft
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nights. They're just coming to play, but
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then they're like, "Oh, this is a cool,
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comfortable space, and you know, this
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beverage that I tried is really tasty,
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and these snacks I got were really
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delicious." and then they would want to
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come back.
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>> What's happening in the wine industry
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today is it's facing [music] one of the
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biggest transformation actually in its
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history. In 2024, global wine
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consumption fell to around 214
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million hecto liters. So it was like the
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lowest level in more than 60 [music]
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years. Innovation you know matters in
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this situation. This is one when we need
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to rethink and get out of the box. And
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I'm not saying that the future it's only
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wine without alcohol. I think they they
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can go hand in [music] hand. And wine
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without alcohol can be also the future
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lab of the wine industry.
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Why not [music] reinvent ourselves?
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>> Cheers to you.
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>> Cheers. May everyone have the Vox video
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to [laughter] small business owner
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pipeline dream come true.
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>> Hey, no, we're we're living the dream.
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[laughter]
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>> That is delicious.
