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Inside The Rare-Earth Race to Build Supply Chains Beyond China
Inside The Rare-Earth Race to Build Supply Chains Beyond China
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At first glance, the port town of Kuantan, Malaysia,
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feels far removed from the geopolitical turmoil shaping the global economy.
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But just outside the city, is a company at the center of one of them.
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We're pretty confident that we're just as good as
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the Chinese are in terms of our solvent extraction processes.
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Lynas Rare Earths has emerged as a key player in the push
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to diversify global rare earth supply chains.
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But a decade ago, the company was fighting for survival.
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I put my hand up because if the business went under,
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it was the technician on the tunnel furnace who would lose his job.
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That decision helped set in motion a dramatic corporate turnaround.
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I went inside Lynas for what would become Amanda Lacaze's final interview as CEO.
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Rare earths have become one of the world's most strategic materials. They help make the
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powerful magnets used in electric vehicles, wind turbines, and advanced defense systems.
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For decades, China has dominated the supply chain,
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still handling about 85% of rare earth refining globally.
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Here in Kuantan, Lynas separates and refines rare earths mined at Mount Weld in Western Australia.
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Its plant is the largest rare earth processing facility outside China.
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Lynas Rare Earths recently opened the plant to journalists, offering a closer
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look inside an industry now at the center of geopolitics, trade, and the energy transition.
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But the company wasn't always in this position.
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When Amanda Lacaze took over in 2014,
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Lynas was struggling financially and facing an uncertain future.
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Under her leadership, it moved from crisis to becoming a major global supplier.
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As we walked through the plant,
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I asked why she was willing to take on a company so close to the edge.
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Amanda, you came in from outside into a company in crisis. In one of the most
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complex industries ever, what went through your mind when you decided to take on the top job?
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I joined the board, it became obvious that there was an issue. I either
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had to put my hand up to be part of the solution or I needed to resign.
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You put your hand up.
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And I put my hand up. Why did I do that? Because the people in the business
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deserved someone to give it their very best shot, because if the business went under,
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it was the technician on the tunnel furnace who would lose his job,
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and there was no golden parachute for him. So, I needed to do that.
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Turning around the company is one thing,
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but turning around a company that will be strong enough to compete with China
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in rare earths is another thing. Did that put a lot of pressure on you?
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I don't really believe in pressure, right? I think if you've got a challenge,
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you're best bringing all of your energy to dealing with the challenge, not to sitting
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and being self-indulgent and thinking, "Oh, poor little me, isn't this tough?" So, I'm confident.
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We've got good people in Australia, we've got good people in Malaysia. We put all of that together,
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we all do our best work every day, not only can we compete with anyone, we can win.
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For Lacaze, that confidence was hard-earned.
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When she took over in 2014, Lynas was carrying far more debt than cash. That year's accounts showed
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about $38 million Australian dollars in cash, against more than $440 million in borrowings.
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When I arrived, we had no money in the bank. We had difficult relationships with our lenders. We
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had a billion-dollar plant that wasn't operating. All we could do and all we did do was to approach
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each problem with discipline and resilience because you won't get it right first time.
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So, really taking all of our challenges and breaking them
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down into bite-size chunks and making sure our people knew how
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they could contribute to fixing things, made a huge difference.
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But cost cutting alone wasn't enough. Lynas still needed capital.
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One of its key backers was Japan Australia Rare Earths or JARE,
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a partnership between Japan state-backed resource agency JOGMEC and trading company, Sojitz.
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In 2011, JARE provided Lynas with $250 million US dollars in loans and equity.
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The partnership deepened in 2023 with roughly another $130 million dollars invested as
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Lynas expanded into more complex, higher value rare earth elements.
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By 2026, Lynas had agreed to supply Japan with 75% of its medium and heavy rare earth production.
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For Lynas, the relationship brought capital and a committed customer. For Japan,
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it created a more secure supply route beyond China.
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So, if you think about it, Japan did not just rescue Lynas,
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it actually helped to create a first real alternative to China?
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Well, actually, it's more than that. Japan actually invented rare earths technology. But then
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they lost the lead in terms of market position to China. But it's the Japanese material scientists
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who really developed rare earths technology, rare earths magnets. It's just not growing as fast -
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So, they're using you to regain lost ground?
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Markets where you have more competitors and more activity will be more innovative,
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will do more interesting things technically than markets which are sole suppliers. So, I think that
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together we are working and our objective is to build a bigger outside China market.
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Inside this warehouse, the rare earth supply chain becomes tangible.
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The bags stacked around us each hold one metric ton, about 2,200 lbs. of
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separated rare earth oxides ready to be shipped to manufacturers around the world.
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Among them is NdPr, or neodymium-praseodymium oxide, used to make the high-strength permanent
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magnets inside electric vehicles, wind turbines and other advanced technologies.
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So, Amanda, what's in these bags, and what's the costing like for each bag of oxide that I see?
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Yeah, so the ones with the pink loops are NDPR. Actually, the ones with the pink and blue are
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ND and the ones with the pink and yellow are PR. So, today NDPR, the published price in
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Asian metal is around about $100 dollars a kilo. That bag has 1,000 kilos in it.
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Wow, do the math.
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So that bag - indeed - is worth about $100,000 dollars.
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Okay.
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So, we tell our operators, especially the ones who are driving forklifts,
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just be careful because it would be best if they don't actually hit the bag.
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What's the demand like?
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Demand, you can see we've got a big warehouse here. It's not very
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full. That's because as we make this product, it goes out straight away.
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Demand is growing at around about 10% per annum and forecast to continue to do that,
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or more, at least for the next 10 years.
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China has spent decades mastering its separation and refining capabilities. What was the toughest
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challenge you faced trying to build and scale up the kind of capability here at Lynas?
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Oh, that is a very long list of things.
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What was the toughest challenge you faced?
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Well, the trickiest part of the plant, chemically, is the solvent extraction
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area. The trickiest part of the plant, mechanically, is the cracking and leaching
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plant. The trickiest part of the plant in terms of quality, is product finishing. And of course -
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That's a long list.
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Exactly. And that's all just here in Malaysia. You know, back in Australia,
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we have challenges there in terms of learning how to actually process that material at Mount
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Weld. Learning how to operate in an environment where water is almost as valuable as rare earths.
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Do you think you've closed the gap with China as far as separation technologies are concerned?
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Very, very confidently. We would say that maybe Northern Rare Earths in a couple of areas, which
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is the largest of the Chinese firms, is still just ahead of us, but we are a very fast number two.
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We would be confident there are some things that we have
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done in our flow sheet which would put us ahead.
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But that capability comes with trade-offs. Rare earth
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processing can generate residue containing naturally occurring radioactive material.
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For more than a decade, Lynas has faced protests,
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regulatory scrutiny, and public debate in Malaysia over how that waste is managed.
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In March 2026, Malaysian authorities renewed the company's operating license for 10 years,
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but with tougher conditions and a full review after five.
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By 2031, the company must stop producing its radioactive processing residue. Any generated
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during those first five years must be treated so it is no longer radioactive before disposal.
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How do you deal with a public outcry and rebuild trust?
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What's really important is that you deal in facts, not fantasy.
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Any time that you mine any material, you are likely to have naturally occurring
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radioactive material come along with it because the earth is radioactive.
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The Lynas material, which comes from Mount Weld, it's two billion years old,
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and so in fact the radioactivity has significantly reduced over that time,
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but it is very low level. It's about 6 becquerels per gram.
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We actually have people who work in particular parts of the plant
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wear radiation monitors. It has never gone above background radiation levels.
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So, you are taking steps. You are putting in the systems and the
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processes in place to contain any hazardous risks?
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Oh absolutely. Absolutely. Processing rare earths is a dirty business. You know what?
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Any industrial activity undertaken on this earth,
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you can either manage it in a way which is safe and sustainable, or you can choose not to, right?
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Managing in a way, and at our core of our culture is that what we will do
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will be safe for our people, safe for our communities, and safe for the environment.
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For a decade, Lynas was focused on survival. Now, it's planning for growth.
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The company's 2030 strategy lays out an ambitious road map for expansion.
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What's the next big move that could really further challenge China's grip and dominance?
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We think that the next thing to ensure that the industry
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grows is to have more outside China metal and magnet making.
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So, we are partnering with metal and magnet makers. And so far this year,
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we've announced a partnership with JS Link, which is a Korean company,
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and LS Cable, which is another Korean company.
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With LS Cable, we're going to focus on metal making in the first instance. JS
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Link alongside Lynas is going to invest in developing a magnet plant here in Malaysia.
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After 12 years of leading the company, Amanda Lacaze has stepped down as CEO.
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When you look at this chapter of your life, what do you want your legacy to be?
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Oh, I think that it can be a bit silly to worry about legacies.
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I've observed through my life that when you leave a corporation, it's a bit like taking
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your hand out of a bucket of water. Five seconds later you can't see where it was.
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If I've done my job well, the business should not skip a beat just because I'm
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not here. But I would hope that my legacy is that the people who have worked in this
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business with me can do things now that they couldn't do 12 years ago.
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I get my joy at work out of seeing people do
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things they might not have been able to do without my leadership.
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And that you've made a difference.
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Absolutely.
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Not many women get to run a mining company that's caught right smack in
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the middle of global supply chain and at the center of geopolitics.
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How do you handle the volatility? How has it changed you as a leader?
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I would start that question, Christine, with not many women get to run a company,
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right? And that is a problem.
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And people say to me, you know, mining male dominated. You know what,
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I started my career in fast moving consumer goods. Guess what? It was male dominated.
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I worked in industrial chemicals. Guess what? It was male dominated. I worked in
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agriculture. Guess what? It was male dominated. I worked in telecommunications. Guess what? It
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was male dominated, and then I went and worked in mining. And so why did I keep doing that? Because
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I wanted to prove there was a better way to run companies than, traditionally, they have been.
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I don't think it changed me as much as hopefully I changed it.
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Maybe if you talk about legacy, that is something of which I would
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be extraordinarily proud - is that now men can imagine women running a mining company.
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You know, their default picture of a CEO is a man. Right? And so,
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for those of us who are able to change that, then they start to have a picture
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in their head which looks like a woman, and that's great for the next generation of women
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coming through. And I think that that is really, really important.
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Amanda, thank you so much for talking to me.
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Thank you, Christine. Thank you.
