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How the UAE Is Trying to Build a Global Defense Giant
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No one wants war, but war is also a validation. War tests your preparation.
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The UAE has long relied on foreign defense systems.
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Now, it’s building more of that capability at home.
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When you import a solution normally,
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from anywhere in the world, you also import a doctrine, the way to use it.
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At the center of that ambition is EDGE Group — an Abu Dhabi-backed
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defense and technology company launched in 2019.
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When EDGE was created, it was created with a different flavor to it, from ammunition to space.
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Now, the question is whether EDGE can turn the
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country’s push for self-defense reliance into a global business.
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On the outskirts of Abu Dhabi, inside Tawazun Industrial Park,
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the UAE’s defense ambitions are being turned into hardware.
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This is where EDGE Group is trying to turn the UAE from a buyer into
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a builder — bringing design, engineering, testing and production into one ecosystem.
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The company is still a young player by global defense industry standards.
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But it has grown quickly, consolidating more than 35 entities into a single
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defense and advanced technology group. The result is a company grouped into six
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core clusters, covering everything from missiles and weapons to space and homeland security.
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The ambition is not just to build for the UAE, but to prove those systems can compete abroad.
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Our first stop was HALCON — EDGE’s missile and weapons production facility.
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This is where I met Hamad Al Marar, Managing Director and CEO.
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This is an electromechanical-based facility. It is fully automated when it comes to assembly,
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and it is where really technology and human have actually met.
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Was the goal to always become an exporter when EDGE first started out?
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It’s important to try and promote your products. And if you have a strong belief in what you do,
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beyond your local user, it’s credibility that you achieve.
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And how has the last four months of war changed how you think about doing business?
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We understand the need. We understand the urgency. It has really shaken our system
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in terms of paperwork and bureaucracy. It has, I would say, made us more efficient.
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Though wars are always bad, but sometimes you need a shake to reconsider things.
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A shake for the better, would you say? For the better. Yes.
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That urgency has become part of Al Marar’s argument for building more
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defense capability at home. He says the recent conflict
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showed how much of the UAE’s response now depends on nationally developed technology.
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You are running, probably, what is one of the world’s fastest-growing defense
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startups today — and this is a business that has actually been tested by a real war on home soil.
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Of course, no one wants war, but war is also a validation. War tests your preparation.
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It came after decades and decades of work, and it surely demonstrated our readiness,
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our resilience, and the capabilities that mainly were home grown.
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Al Marar says UAE Armed Forces intercepted more than 95% of incoming threats,
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with more than 80% of those interceptions involved nationally grown technologies.
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What type of technology and products was EDGE actually using during the Iran war?
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We’ve used many of our drones, of course. But what was very important is that we deployed a
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full geofencing capability of the whole nation in over 190 sites in less than 48 hours.
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And how much of the technology and product that
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EDGE actually makes today is genuinely homegrown?
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If I look at the portfolio in terms of products, not configurations, over 90% are UAE,
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10% comes from abroad, our entities that we own in Europe, we own in Latin America,
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and elsewhere. In the products that we have locally, they are all stamped by Made in the UAE.
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I think you're touching on a really critical point here. Is this about sovereignty for the UAE,
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relying less on those Western suppliers like the United States, for example,
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or is this now about building globally competitive weapons and technology supply?
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Definitely, we want to be competitive. And let's take it on different verticals,
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I would say. When you import a solution, normally, from anywhere in the world, you also import a
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doctrine — the way to use it. And there are no two armies alike. The geography is different. The size
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is different. The force multiplier definition is different, and the affordability is different.
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And what has that development meant for the UAE and EDGE’s relationship with dominant
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Western suppliers, like the United States, for example? Because I'm sure if the UAE is
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buying less weapons, then the U.S. is probably raising one eyebrow, right?
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Look, life is business, and we're not dropping anyone. Are we developing a
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fighter? Answer is no. Are we developing a main battle tank? The answer is no.
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But there are other things that we do rely on friends and allies as well. Now,
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are we buying less? Yes, we're buying less. But how much less? This is the
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United Arab Emirates Armed Forces should decide. I do not want to be
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the sole supplier of the UAE Armed Forces. I have a family, right, and I need diversity,
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and we need capability. No nation can work alone.
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My next stop with Al Marar was ADASI, EDGE’s autonomous systems business.
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Inside this assembly hangar, the focus is on unmanned aircraft,
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built for surveillance, strike missions and battlefield support.
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What would you say is the strongest growth signal, or the strongest growth market right
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now? Where is demand actually coming from? I would say we’re focusing on air defense, layered
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defense, defense from cyberattacks, defense from drones, defense from incoming missiles,
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ballistic missiles, fighter jets, helicopters. You need to optimize your layered defense,
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because it became a war of attrition. You need to be able to afford it and
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stand tall for the longest time possible. How do you keep the manufacturing costs low
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so that you can compete in the global market? It’s always about adopting the best available
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options — no legacies. There is always a better way to do things cheaper.
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When you design towards a price, most likely you will get there. But when you design only for spec,
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then you will try to get to that price. Is advanced warfare becoming more expensive
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or less expensive for the buyer here that you have in mind?
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It depends. The whole approach has changed. Maybe before you needed something on a certain standard,
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on a certain level. Maybe today you need a cheaper solution. The rules
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of the game have changed. A drone can take down a tank. Previously,
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it was a tank that takes down a tank. So, you have to adapt, or you will be behind.
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EDGE has also just opened up in Europe, in Paris specifically, with a French government cooperation
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agreement, as well. How significant is that deal for EDGE and for Abu Dhabi?
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Europe is where the next budgets are. We would like to contribute to the security of Europe.
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We feel that we have a value. We feel that Europe have recognized this value by accepting
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us into Europe. These are facts. Now we own entities in Estonia, we own an entity in Poland,
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we own an entity in Switzerland, we own an entity in Germany, we own an entity in France,
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and we have JVs in Spain, and we have partnerships and JVs in acquisitions in Italy.
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We have a very nice footprint in Europe,
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and this would have not been possible if the UAE wasn't accepted in Europe as a partner,
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knowing and trustworthy with NATO, and the way we firewall things.
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Plus, you need another player in Europe, even the big players today,
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we're working with them. There is always these collaborations,
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but they only start when you put your ego aside. There is always someone better than you,
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and you need to be on this learning curve forever. Things are ever changing.
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Still, indeed, one of the world's most protected defense markets, though. So,
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what are the solutions that Edge can actually provide?
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We have over 200 solutions. Over 70% that are on production lines,
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and we have about 30% that will see the light in the next two years.
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When we look at EDGE Europe, we mean it when we say EDGE Europe.
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EDGE Europe is European. EDGE Europe will utilize our platforms. EDGE Europe will produce in Europe.
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We're complying with their rules, and those are the rules of the game. We need to comply
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with NATO. They need to go in operation on NATO. We totally understand that,
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and if we can accelerate security agenda in Europe, we will do that. If we can accelerate
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wealth and flourishing the ecosystem, we will do that. If we are adding value, we will do that.
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The voices against foreign money coming in, particularly into the European defense
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sector are rising, so what is your plan to combat that political push back?
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If I faced one, maybe I do have an answer, but I haven't faced any yet.
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Scale is only part of the story. The bigger test is whether systems
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made in the UAE can compete globally. At CARACAL, EDGE’s small-arms business,
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that export push is already visible on the production floor.
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Here, weapons are assembled for domestic use — and for international customers.
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So, what specifically is being made inside this part of the warehouse?
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We do assemblies of everything we produce for small arms in this place — so going
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from a 9mm pistol to a 12.7 sniper. And where are all these small arms going?
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Where are you seeing the biggest demand? The highest demand is, of course, the UAE,
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but we do have many export clients, and mainly in Asia and Africa.
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Do you think that the global market for defense is getting more and more fragmented?
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I would rephrase it, and I don’t want to sound political, but unfortunately,
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70% of the countries in the world lay outside EU, U.S., Russia and China.
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The UAE is a very nice, natural, peaceful choice for many countries.
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If you buy from China, you upset U.S. You buy from U.S, you upset China. UAE is neutral. That's one.
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But the second thing what is equally important is
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we do not have bureaucracy towards export permits. They come out fast.
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No one wants to wait for a rifle for 6 months
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to receive a shipment. We have a very fast turnaround in that angle.
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Actually in some cases we are able to start supplying beyond or faster than
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a country issuing a contracting permit. And that's an advantage.
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Our business model is quite different. We build to stock and we sell which makes it a faster
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turnaround on our inventory, faster turnaround to satisfy our sales order, and that's a big merit.
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But only to those countries where the export control has been approved, right?
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Of course. No, no, nothing goes into the country or outside the country without our MOD process.
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You're leading almost 20,000 people inside this organization.
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How do you do that day-to-day? And what would you say is the number one thing
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that you think about when you get out of bed coming into the office every day?
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The largest risk I took is the will to work with a great team like the team I have.
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What keeps me up at night is, maybe you said 20,000, but this could be 100,000 dependents,
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families, kids, siblings, mom, father, that are relying on the bread earner in this group,
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that relies day and night on our decisions. And I'm a father myself, that keeps me up at night.
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I would spend my day, day and night not to lose a
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single employee in this organization. And I think that's my largest responsibility.
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What's the biggest challenge that you're facing right now, leading EDGE?
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Every day. Every day, if I take it financially,
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the group has needs and we need to keep money flowing.
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The group needs backlogs. We need careers and we need to sustain the workforce.
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Politics, geopolitics, supply chain, logistics,
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things that are in your hand maybe you can control, but things outside your hand,
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you have to navigate through and there is no experience that can do that.
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You learn in the moment and that's the difficult part of it. Taking decisions in the unknown.
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And as you continue to lead and grow EDGE, where do you see this business in the next decade? ]
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Top 15. Soon.
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How soon?
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Very soon.
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Very soon?
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Very soon. At least in my tenure.
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Hamad, great to see you today. Thank you for showing me around.
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Lovely to see you. Thank you so much.
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Appreciate it. Thank you.
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Thank you.