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on the margins statehood starts to get
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subjective there are plenty of countries
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whose status as sovereign states is
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never really refuted France Japan the us
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there are also some that nearly no one
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recognizes as sovereign states the saari
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Arab Democratic Republic Northern Cyprus
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South Atia in between is the subjective
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line representing near Universal
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recognition by other countries there are
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nations that start to approach this line
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exhibiting most tenants of statehood yet
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lacking the sort of near Universal
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recognition that leads to the colloquial
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status of countryhaven Palestine most
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notably but then directly on the other
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side of the line is One Singular example
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of a state that simply does not exhibit
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many perhaps even most of the
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traditional characteristics of sovereign
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statehood yet enjoys near Universal
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unequivocal recognition as a sovereign
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state that is the
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Vatican perhaps most damningly the
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Vatican has no real permanent population
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there are always people there but each
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really only lives there while they're
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working there Vatican citizenship exists
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but nobody is born into it it isn't
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passed down from generation to
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generation it isn't granted as a
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Birthright meaning nobody perceives
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themselves from birth till death as a
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well there actually isn't a word for
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that there isn't even a universally
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recognized term to refer to someone from
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the Vatican because nobody's from the
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Vatican it is the only country in the
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CIA World Factbook for example that just
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doesn't have a demonym listed because
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everyone who holds Vatican citizenship
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was born into another citizenship and
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nationality and predes themselves
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primarily as Italian American
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Argentinian whatever the Vatican also
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lacks a real economy its main economic
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activity is selling tickets to its
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museums it doesn't have a Healthcare
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System residents go to Italy for almost
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all medical care it doesn't have an
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independent legal system Italian law
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applies in most cases Ian courts
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prosecute most crimes Italian prisons
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house most of the convicted there's no
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formal education system little Commerce
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Beyond a grocery store and some tourist
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shops hardly a distinct cultural
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identity outside of the churches when
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you look at it objectively the Vatican
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is hardly a nation and yet it enjoys
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complete near universally recognized
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Sovereign statehood of course around the
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world there are plenty of non-sovereign
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entities that view themselves as
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Sovereign and therefore operate within a
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given territory as if they were but what
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they lack is international recognition
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of their sovereignty the Vatican does
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have international recognition meaning
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it has the extremely valuable and unique
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right to engage in the formal process of
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international diplomacy no other church
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has this right not Islam not Judaism not
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Hinduism not even any other Christian
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denomination this one church can set up
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embassies appoint ambassadors even set
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up representation at the United Nations
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historically there have been a good
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number of examples of religious
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authorities holding Sovereign territory
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but without fail every single instance
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faded away even those of the Catholic
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church for the majority of the last
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Millennium the papacy exercised
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sometimes loose sometimes firm
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sovereignty over much of modern-day
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Italy in the late 1700s the Papal States
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were larger than today's Netherlands and
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even included an exclave in France but
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this Legacy came to an abrupt end on
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September 20th 1870 when troops of the
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newly born Kingdom of Italy marched into
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Rome and captured it following a brief
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battle with papal forces the kingdom did
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offer the papacy ownership and
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non-sovereign control over the leonine
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city the area that encompasses today's
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Vatican City as well as a sizable annual
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stipend to pay for the operations of the
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Holy sea and Broad guarantees of
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sovereignty in their operations after
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all the kingdom still needed to play
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nice with the church as Italy was a
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predominantly Catholic Nation meaning
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many of its residents were loyal to the
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pope but the pope quickly rejected
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Italy's offer since doing so would
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effectively act as recognition of their
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power over the conquered territory and
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since he believed that the church needed
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sovereignty entirely independent from
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that of any political power as they had
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had for the last Millennium so rather
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for the following 60 years each
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successive pope from the moment they
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were elected never left the Vatican they
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believed doing so could be interpreted
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as accepting the legitimacy of Italian
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rule but when musolini came into power
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in 1922 he wanted to win the support of
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Italian Catholics so he entered into
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negotiations with the papacy to resolve
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the conflict which finally culminated in
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the 1929 lerin treaty this most notably
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handed over sovereignty of9 square miles
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or 49 Square km of land to the holy sea
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thereby forming the smallest independent
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country in the world as an independent
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country the Vatican does mirror a rough
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fimile of traditional government but its
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exact form of governance is entirely
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unique it is the only non-hereditary
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elected absolute monarchy in the world
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one of the many authorities wrapped up
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in the pope title is effectively King of
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the Vatican he is an absolute monarch
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with unchecked authority over all
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legislative executive and judicial
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decisions but it is the only instance of
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an absolute monarchy where the ruler is
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elected rather than pulled from a line
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of succession as the pope is selected
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from the pool of cardinals through the
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famed conclave election despite his
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supreme authority the pope has long
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delegated his authority to others who
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actually operationally run the
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government that government is what's
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referred to to as the holy sea
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importantly the holy sea is both the
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governing body of the Vatican State and
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the Roman Catholic Church that's to say
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there's zero distinction between the
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state and the church they are quite
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literally the same thing the holy SE
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administrative functions are encompassed
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by a body called the Roman curia which
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itself is made up of 16 different
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dicasteries or departments the oldest
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most powerful and most important
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dicastri is the Secretariat of State led
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by the Secretary of State who
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effectively acts as the prime minister
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of the Holy sea of course the Secretary
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of State position like in any government
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is that in charge of diplomatic
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functions meaning Foreign Relations hold
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a central supreme position within the
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Vatican government one of the functions
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he supervises is the operations of 117
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Apostolic nuns globally that effectively
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function as embassies but here's where
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things get weirder nun seaters are
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treated as diplomatic missions and
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therefore enjoy all the Privileges that
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embassies and consulant do like
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diplomatic immunity freedom of
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communication exemption from local taxes
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and laws and more yet the nunur don't
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actually represent the Vatican State
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they represent the holy sea this small
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distinction adds to the count of
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anomalies in the ways the Vatican and
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holy sea operate the holy sea is more or
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less the government of the Vatican that
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government is in this case operationally
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Inseparable from the state but not all
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governments are so that means that is
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not too different from say the American
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Republican party the British labor party
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the Chinese Communist party any
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governing Authority having diplomatic
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representation abroad governments
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themselves are not typically allowed to
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do that but the reason why this is
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possible at all is that the holy city
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the body in charge of the sovereign
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state of the Vatican is itself
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considered a sovereign entity it's not
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the only instance of a non-territorial
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organization holding sovereign powers
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the UN has has some the Red Cross as
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well and the most direct equivalent is
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that of The Sovereign military Order of
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Malta another Catholic institution but
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there's not even broad consensus on why
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the holy sea itself has sovereignty some
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argue that it's because of the latter in
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treaty as in addition to the
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establishment of a Vatican state it
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recognized the holy sea as a sovereign
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entity but this is quickly refuted by
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the fact that across the six decades
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that the holy C lacked territory it was
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still recognized as a sovereign entity
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by most of the world it's still engaged
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in formal diplomacy so the real
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explanation seems to be in the
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unsatisfying fact that everyone has
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always kept treating it as a sovereign
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entity and therefore it is one
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interestingly the Vatican State itself
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does have some International
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representation it's a member of the
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international Postal Union the
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international telecommunications Union
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the world intellectual property
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organization and a number of other
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institutions more closely related to the
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administration of the city state itself
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meanwhile the holy C is the entity that
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is more commonly represented in anything
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relating more to International
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policymaking particularly it's the
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entity that does the majority of
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interfacing with other countries in the
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United Nations just a 15-minute walk
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from the un's headquarters down
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Manhattan's 43rd Street past the mission
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of the Marshall Islands in India down
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Third Avenue and past the mission of New
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Zealand is the holy Seas permanent
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Observer mission to the UN Within These
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Walls it's a fairly small operation
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there's Archbishop Gabrielle Casia the
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apostolic Nuno effectively the head
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Diplomat two counselors to the
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Archbishop five attaches and a handful
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of college age interns from around the
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world while comparatively light in Total
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Staffing this office stays busy
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principally in efforts to communicate
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the church's stance on any and all
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issues brought forth at the UN in just
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the months of April 2024 for example
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this Mission commented on 13 separate
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occasions at un proceedings with
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Archbishop cassia offering statements at
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un mainbody institutions like the
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general assembly and Security Council as
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well as smaller more specific
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institutions like the six committee
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which considers the un's legal questions
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and the permanent Forum on indigenous
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issues not technically a stat but a body
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administering a sovereign state the holy
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sea shares the distinction with
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Palestine as one of only two non-member
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Observer States at the UN even if the
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holy sea itself is not technically a
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state on top of a unique standing the
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holy sea has a unique backstory as to
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how it got recognition which in turn
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informs its unique role at the UN it
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began with a world verging on nuclear
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war when Pope John the 23d boldly
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entered the Diplomatic fold like no
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modern Pope prior as tensions reached
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their Peak with the Cuban Missile Crisis
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in 1962 the pope went as far as reaching
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out directly to Nikita Kev and US
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leadership as well as publicly pleading
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with the non-catholic populace of the
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Soviet block and really the world via
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radio for peace this soft but very real
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influence of perhaps the world's most
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recognizable moral Authority caught the
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attention of the UN Secretary General EU
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Fant after personally visiting the
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Vatican meeting with with the new Pope
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Paul v 6 Fant accepted the holy Sea's
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request to become a permanent Observer
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with the informal addition the holy sea
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could observe comment and maintain seats
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at the un's general assembly but it
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couldn't vote for its part though the
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holy seed did not and maintains it still
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does not want a vote that's on account
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of the foundational agreement that made
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a sovereign Vatican possible in the
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first place and simultaneously calls
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into question the extent of its
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sovereignty within the latter in treaty
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article 24 ensured that the vatican's
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representative wouldn't take sides in
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issues between states nor enter any
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International congresses unless able to
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pursue its pacifist Mission without bias
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because the morally oriented diplomacy
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of the Vatican lines up Rather cleanly
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with the four pillars of the UN the
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pursuit of peace and security human
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rights the rule of law and development
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the holy sea is comfortable associating
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with the international organization but
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such permanent neutrality would be
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undercut by a vote to enact sanctions
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against a nation for example rather than
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a vote the church's influence over un
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proceedings is largely through Ric
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something it doesn't take lightly as
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four separate popes have taken the time
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to visit and speak at the UN and
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generally it's rare for the church to
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take on an issue or stance very
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controversial or counter to the
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organizations given the similarity in
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State admissions but some issues do
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require Nuance the ethics of an un
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stance on human cloning for example had
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member states largely stumped in the
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early 2000s in the wake of scientists
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first successful reproductive cloning of
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an animal for France and Germany the
11:58
Breakthrough in cloning cling Dolly the
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sheep required an immediate stance on
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the part of the International Community
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that reproductive cloning of humans
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should be immediately banned this seemed
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a popular and straightforward stance for
12:08
the UN to adopt but then came the holy
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sea through comments made by
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representative Renato Martino in late
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2001 who argued that the band didn't go
12:17
far enough a simple issue took on a new
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dimension certainly direct reproductive
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cloning should be baned but what about
12:23
therapeutic cloning and the process of
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using human stem cells for medical
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purposes that certain countries had
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already legalized Iz and lean into it
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was undeniably a scientific breakthrough
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but one that the holy sea saw as an
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unethical affront to human dignity as
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human embryos in the church's view were
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nothing less than human beings and thus
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using embryos for medical purposes was
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destroying One Life to help another now
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the issue had become more complicated
12:48
and the UN resolved to consider drafts
12:50
of both types of ban in the following
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session what followed was a splintering
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the French and German proposal on an
12:56
immediate ban of strictly reproductive
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Clon came forward as did an alternative
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stricter ban from the US in Costa Rica
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that largely represented the holy sea
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stance while another effort led by Iran
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and backed by many Muslim members sought
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to push a moratorium on the vote for two
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years by a single vote the Iranian
13:15
moratorium passed but the holy sea was
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undeterred and continued the moral
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lobbying on the part of the church
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across the following vote free such
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persistence ultimately paid off as the
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return of the issue in ' 05 resulted in
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a ban on human cloning far wider
13:28
reaching than that initially introduced
13:30
in 01 while fairly vague in its language
13:33
non-binding in its terms and far from
13:35
unanimous in its outcome the ban passed
13:38
by popular vote most closely represented
13:39
the views of a member state that was
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unable to cast a vote on the matter
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beyond the UN and Beyond human cloning
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this largely moral ideological and
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peace-oriented Mission informs holyy
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diplomacy across all of its
13:52
international relations Syria as a
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nation for example has a religious
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composition that's roughly 90% Muslim
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and less than 10% Christian only a
14:01
fraction of which being Catholic and yet
14:04
the holy sea in Syria have maintained
14:05
diplomatic ties since 1953 with a
14:08
long-standing Nuno set up in Damascus
14:10
such a presence and relationship has
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benefited both sides in 2000 with the
14:15
death of HZ al-assad and subsequent
14:17
question of who the next Syrian
14:19
president would be Syrian officials
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expressed hope that mediation through
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Pope John Paul II would be possible and
14:24
a decade later seen as unbiased and not
14:27
politically motivated the pope and the
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holy not the UN were again viewed by
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Muslim leaders as some of the last
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viable peace Brokers once the Syrian
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Civil War erupted Beyond a broad moral
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obligation to pursue peace such good
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moral standing in middle eastern African
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and Muslim majority countries also
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allows the holy sea to keep tabs on and
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advocate for the rights of Christian
14:47
minority populations within such
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countries too in Indonesia a Muslim
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majority country with which the holy sea
14:53
has had good standing with since its
14:55
early recognition of Indonesian
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Independence Christians have run into
14:58
difficulties getting permits to build
14:59
places of worship to this religious
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minority these obstructions have come to
15:03
represent a passive sort of religious
15:05
oppression and a supposedly tolerant
15:07
Nation yet they're hopeful with a 2024
15:10
visit from the pope Indonesian
15:11
Christians are believing again that a
15:13
reignited respect between the country
15:15
and the holy sea will serve as a step
15:16
towards ease tensions and fewer
15:18
restraints on building churches of
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course in places where Catholicism is
15:22
the majority the Vatican maintains a
15:24
Keener interest here on the palm tree
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line streets of Havana sits the
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apostolic nunciature of Cuba this
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colonial style building just outside of
15:32
the Oldtown is home to the
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ecclesiastical Office of the Catholic
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Church though the Nuno here had been
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established in 1935 and played varying
15:39
roles over the decades it was in the
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2010s that its prominence in geopolitics
15:43
and specifically the wests made
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headlines shortly after Pope Francis was
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elected in 2013 United States President
15:50
Barack Obama sent an unpublished letter
15:52
to him the timing was notable Obama had
15:54
just started his second term as
15:56
president and Pope Francis was beginning
15:58
tenure as the first pope from the
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Americas the Vatican had long been
16:01
interested in what happened in Cuba from
16:03
a religious and humanitarian point of
16:05
view documents show visits and
16:07
correspondents throughout the 2000s
16:08
citing concerns about Cuban's quality of
16:10
life at the beginning of 2014 Secretary
16:13
of State John kery acknowledged the
16:14
Pope's calls for justice in Cuba and the
16:16
release of political prisoner Alan G the
16:19
holy SE embraced a mediator role with
16:21
the Pope sending letters to both Obama
16:23
and Cuban president R Castro that summer
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urging them to compromise followed by
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the Vatican actually hosting delegations
16:29
from both parties to moderate those
16:31
ongoing discussions that laid the
16:33
groundwork for what eventually became
16:34
known as the Cuban thaw The Diplomatic
16:36
softening between the United States and
16:38
Cuba reflected by loosen travel
16:39
restrictions Pathways to financial
16:41
transactions and a general diplomatic
16:43
openness seen in the reopening of the
16:44
Cuban Embassy on December 17th 2014
16:48
President Obama announced this
16:49
development in his speech he paid
16:51
specific attention to the holy sea in
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particular I want to thank his Holiness
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Pope Francis whose moral example shows
16:57
us the importance of pursuing the world
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as it should be rather than simply
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settling for the world as it is later
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president R Castro expressed similar
17:05
sentiments while visiting the Vatican
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saying quote I am very happy I've come
17:08
here to thank him for what he has done
17:10
to begin solving the problems of the
17:11
United States and Cuba and though Pope
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francis's role was largely symbolic it
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was also critical the Vatican doesn't
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have exports and it doesn't have
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Financial strings to dangle as
17:21
incentives for Global compromise but it
17:23
does have moral Authority the result was
17:26
nothing short of History making with
17:28
Cuba release and gross and the
17:29
subsequent period of tenuous diplomacy
17:31
that Cuba and America shared and though
17:33
it didn't last long under the Trump
17:35
Administration in early 2025 the Vatican
17:37
played a pivotal role in the release of
17:39
500 Cuban prisoners with American
17:40
Cardinal sha om Ali relaying messages
17:42
from the Vatican to both Cuban and
17:44
American officials relative to the size
17:47
of the state the Vatican holds real
17:49
power but that power is vested in the
17:51
country's conflation with the central
17:53
authority of one of the world's largest
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religions meaning it isn't grounded in
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the factors typically considered when
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gauging power in terms of traditional
18:01
hard power the economic levers the
18:03
physical imports and exports the
18:05
military might the human resources the
18:07
sticks and carrots the holy Seas Vatican
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flatly has none singularly the least out
18:13
of any sovereign state the holy sea can
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speak its mind on any and all issues but
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if push comes to shove it really can't
18:20
do anything about it so the state deals
18:23
in soft power with 117 nunur as the
18:26
physical manifestation of a remarkably
18:28
capable diplom itic arm that deals in
18:30
the gentle nudging soft power without
18:32
any hard power to back it is limited too
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Beyond public Kudos the holy SE doesn't
18:37
have anything to offer Beyond public
18:39
condemnation the holy sea doesn't have
18:41
anything to Force One's hand and it
18:43
knows as much whether cloning at the UN
18:45
or relations between the US and Cuba the
18:48
holy CA has a knack for backing winners
18:50
finding broadly reasonable positions
18:52
with largely appealing moral backing
18:54
that few will take major issue with it
18:56
Fosters positive outcomes in diplomacy
18:58
by backing popular positions consider
19:01
what the holy C doesn't pursue in
19:03
international diplomacy for example
19:05
consider abortion the same logic that
19:08
informs the holy sea stance on stem
19:10
cells and therapeutic cloning doesn't
19:12
differ from that which informs its
19:13
stance on abortion life begins at
19:16
conception in the church's view so
19:18
abortion essentially represents that
19:20
same evil of harvesting embryotic stem
19:22
cells but rather than boisterously and
19:24
defiantly pursuing anti-abortion
19:26
legislation on the international level
19:28
the the holy sea lets it lie rather than
19:31
a little dog with a big bark the holy
19:33
sea is the very smallest dog that has a
19:35
bark at all perhaps then the holy Sea's
19:38
greatest strength of all as a sovereign
19:40
state is its recognition of the
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limitations of its own
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