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How The UAE Is Trying To Turn $30 Billion Into $250 Billion For Climate

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0:00At COP 28, the UAE placed a $30 billion  bet on the future of climate investing.
0:06The vision was there and the ambition was there,  
0:08but that wasn't being reflected  in real-world solutions.
0:12Altérra was born, a climate investment fund  built to test a highly debated proposition, that  
0:18commercial returns and climate impact can go hand  in hand. Its target mobilized $250 billion dollars  
0:27by 2030. Nearly three years on, we're finding  out how much of that ambition has become reality.
0:33Today, I can tell you I'm extremely  confident that we'll hit that target.
0:46Nearly three years after launch, Altérra  says its portfolio now spans more than  
0:50thirty investments across more than  forty countries and five continents.
0:55The Abu Dhabi base fund is now one of  the world's largest private climate  
0:59investment vehicles, investing through  and alongside global asset managers.
1:05Its mandate spans four areas: energy transition,  
1:09industrial decarbonization, climate  technology, and sustainable living.
1:14That's everything from renewable power  in India to aviation software in the US.
1:19But for all of that breadth, energy is the story.
1:22The fund's latest impact report  puts the energy transition at 80%  
1:26of its exposure. I met CEO Majid al  Suwaidi at Altérra's headquarters.
1:31Majid, what makes Altérra different  to your typical private equity firm?
1:36The key difference is that we're a  blended vehicle in the sense that we  
1:41bring the private sector and government together.
1:44When we were at COP 28, we felt that it was  very important to bring different actors to  
1:48the climate finance discussion and each of  them have different objectives or goals,  
1:55but what we're trying to show is that we can align  those objectives and we can make money doing it.
2:00How are people thinking about Abu Dhabi  taking the lead in climate investing?
2:05I think it's been embraced by everyone that I've  met. I think that for a long time people have  
2:11really wanted to see a leader take that step  and that's what Altérra in essence does. It  
2:17takes that first step and then that begets more  capital and that confidence begets more capital  
2:24and that first mover effect is what Abu Dhabi  what the UAE and what Altérra is achieving today.
2:33At launch, Altérra committed $6.5 billion dollars  
2:36across six fund strategies with  Brookfield, Black Rock, and TPG.
2:41It has since added new partners and begun making  direct co-investments in companies and projects.
2:48How much of that 30 billion has been deployed into  
2:51live deals and how much is  left waiting in the wings?
2:54We have invested about 6.5 committed  today of that 30 billion. We started  
3:02out with three of the largest institutional  investors in Brookfield, TPG, and Black Rock.
3:08We've added KKR, CIP, to that roster  of partners. So, as you can see,  
3:14the largest players in the world, and that was  really key to what we wanted to do. Actually,  
3:18when we started we were told that we wouldn't  be able to mobilize capital in a big way  
3:25particularly to the Global South, but we've  seen that we've been able to do that and we've  
3:29shown by taking that leadership that we can do  it. Our fund is broken down into acceleration,  
3:35transformation and now we recently  launched our own fund opportunity.
3:39Acceleration is our global fund that  can invest anywhere in the world,  
3:42and Transformation is our Global South commitment.
3:45With our Acceleration fund, we've  mobilized about nine times our capital,  
3:50and with our Transformation fund,  
3:51we've mobilized almost five times and we  continue to raise. So, as you can tell,  
3:56we've been phenomenally successful so far, way  outstripping our expectations in the beginning.
4:04Wow. So, take a step back for me because  the north star here, as I understand it,  
4:09is 250 billion by 2030. How close are you?
4:13That estimate was something we estimated  in the beginning, and it was a sort of  
4:19moderate target that we felt it was a  stretch but that we could achieve it,  
4:23and today I can tell you I'm extremely  confident that we'll hit that target by 2030.
4:29We've been really pleasantly surprised  with our mobilization ability. Why is  
4:34it important? It was important as a  a measure because what we wanted to  
4:39prove was that we could be commercial,  that we could drive the private sector  
4:44to invest in these spaces and that's  what so far, we've been able to do.
4:49So, let's talk about the strategy then. How are  you sourcing and evaluating opportunities today?  
4:54We're lucky that we're almost like a  hub in a giant wheel and all of the  
5:00climate relevant investments that  are happening today tend to end up  
5:05on our doorstep which means that we can  cherry-pick from the best of the deals.
5:10It's a good problem to have.
5:11It really is. And we knew that  there was this mismatch going on,  
5:15and what we do is we kind of fit in that  middle matching the capital with the deal  
5:19flow and really picking out quality  deals because it's very important to  
5:23us that credibility is what we will deliver  over time, that people will feel confident  
5:29that they can invest generate good returns and  that they will then come back and invest again.
5:35Abu Dhabi's Altérra is one of the  world's largest climate investment  
5:39funds and its deal making has accelerated.
5:42Alongside General Atlantic,  it backed Wireless Logic,  
5:46a connectivity company linking EV chargers,  smart meters, and industrial equipment.
5:52It has also committed to KKR's climate strategy,  
5:55spanning renewables, battery  storage, and electrification.
5:59And with I squared Capital, it invested in  Inkia Energy, Peru's largest independent  
6:05power producer, and Altérra's first  direct investment in Latin America.
6:10But investing at that scale means  deciding which deals make the cut.
6:15Walk me through how a deal actually happens here.
6:17For us, it's particularly unique because of course  
6:20we have an investment team and a climate  impact team that have to work together,  
6:24and we spend a lot of time trying  to integrate these two processes.
6:28So, when a deal first comes in, we do a very  quick first pass. How is this clearly a climate  
6:34impactful deal? And then we take it through  a more detailed process where we apply our  
6:41climate impact framework. So we'll look at every  aspect of the project, understanding what would  
6:48be the emissions impact, what would be the  mobilization factor that we would achieve,  
6:53what would be the impact on the community or  the country's economy itself, and then we have  
6:59these great partners who help us to ensure that  we're making really sound financial decisions.
7:04And so, it's very unique how we meld these  two things together, we have a very talented  
7:11team of people who specialize in these types of  investments, and that's what makes Altérra unique.
7:16That's our secret sauce.
7:18That link between development  and the energy transition is  
7:22central to Altérra's push into the Global South.
7:25Research published by the fund says those markets  attract just 20% of global climate finance,  
7:31leaving a $2 trillion dollar  annual climate investment gap.
7:35But it argues roughly a third of that,  
7:37or about $700 billion dollars a year,  is already investable or close to it.
7:43The challenge - convincing institutional investors  to look past risks like currency volatility,  
7:49political uncertainty and limited market data.
7:53We believe that there is a perception issue  around investing in the Global South that it's  
7:59riskier or that it's more challenging. But you  know the UAE is a Global South country. We're  
8:06a country that's been investing in our part  of the world for decades since we started.
8:12We've had lots of experience in investing  in Asia, in India, in Africa and we'd like  
8:17to do more in Latam. What we see is that if  you're investing in these markets, you can  
8:22generate fantastic return if you make the smart  choices, but you can achieve great impact as well.
8:29Let's talk about AI. We're seeing this  unprecedented surge in global power demand  
8:34driven by AI and data centers. Big tech clearly  scrambling right now for clean base load power.
8:42So, as a climate investor, how  are you viewing the AI boom?
8:46That energy demand should be and can be  as clean as possible. And so that story  
8:54is going to be that energy transition. What  are the things that they think a lot about?  
8:58They think a lot about cooling. They think  about efficiency. They think about how they  
9:02can do more for less power. These are all  great stories for a climate fund, right?
9:08But you know, Dan, we've turned down a lot  of deals. I've had many, many data center  
9:12deals sent to me and I have said, well what's  the addition that we bring, and it can't just  
9:18be that it's a clean data center, there  needs to be something more to the story.
9:22And so, we're really looking very hard at  that, but then there's also how to invest  
9:26in the technology itself, what can that do  in terms of improving energy efficiency,  
9:31developing these new materials, so we  think about it from that perspective.
9:34It's been a challenging year for the Middle  East and 2026 has brought a whole variety of  
9:40challenges, in particular the war with Iran. How  do you think that is shaping investment decisions  
9:46from the Middle East and the appetite to  do business in this part of the world?
9:50I think that what has really struck me has  been how partners have doubled down on the UAE.
9:57I think that this really shows how the UAE  has moved from where we were in the past,  
10:04where we were sort of subject to macro or  regional effects. And I think that that  
10:10reflects my experience growing up here in the  UAE is that every crisis that we've gone through,  
10:17the UAE has always come out stronger,  faster, better, and more efficient.
10:23I have not seen any difference  in the partners, the investors,  
10:30they're all here today, they're  all working, business as usual,  
10:33and that's really a testament to how well our  government has prepared and is moving forward.
10:40I see that continuing to grow. You know at  Altérra, because we are this largest climate  
10:47fund investor, we've seen many, many GPs, fund  managers in our space come and set up here at  
10:54ADGM because they want to support us, they want to  work with us. So, I feel optimistic about the UAE,  
11:02I think we're going to go from strength to  strength because that has been our track record.
11:06On that note, then, what would you say is the  
11:08biggest challenge that Altérra  will face in the coming years?
11:11We're still a young organization. We still  have a lot of room to grow. As you know,  
11:16every organization has to develop  its strategy and has to grow. So,  
11:21I think our biggest challenge is going  to see how do we take our strategy,  
11:26our climate impact framework and how do we evolve  that and grow that into something that is global.
11:33I would love in 2030 for us to do this again  and for me to say that the way we invest today  
11:40is not seen as something that is different  but that it is the approach to investing,  
11:45that we are taking decisions  about companies, about projects,  
11:51that make sense for the investor and that  they're part of this journey with us.
11:56And there's no doubt that that will be a challenge  and that we'll learn lessons along the way, but I  
12:02feel very fortunate that we have a really smart  team and that we have a lot of great partners  
12:06here in the system in the UAE and that we're going  to be able to do that and tackle those challenges.
12:12Walk me through how your diplomatic  experience also helps what you do  
12:16today as well. You've been Ambassador,  you've been a Consul General in New York,  
12:20you led COP 28 here in the UAE. So, how does  that background in high level diplomacy help  
12:26you when you're in the boardrooms, or meeting  with executives from these big Wall Street firms?
12:32You know, I have to say when I started it  was a bit intimidating, right? You know,  
12:36you walk in and you see these leaders  like, you know, the partners we work  
12:40with are some of the biggest institutions  in the world. We work with Larry Fink,  
12:44we work with Bruce Flatt, you have Jim  over at TPG. These are really inspiring,  
12:50great people to be able to learn from,  to work alongside, to see how they work.
12:55And every day is like school for me. I love it.  I love every day when I come to work and I learn  
13:00something new. And there's no school like the UN,  and there's definitely no school like the UNFCCC,  
13:07like the climate change negotiations, which  are so complicated and so challenging,  
13:11but what they teach you is that to be able to  deliver successful solutions, you have to bring  
13:18people together and you have to be able to have  a broad knowledge of a lot of complicated issues.
13:24And trying to solve for those complicated  issues means that you need to look at both  
13:29sides of the story. You need to have empathy.  You need to be able to learn from others,  
13:34hear what are their concerns and their  challenges, and try to address them.
13:38And I think that those skills are  transferable to the space that I'm  
13:42in today. At the end of the day, Dan, you  know, I have a background as a geologist.  
13:46I started out my career in oil and gas.  I'm fundamentally driven as a geologist,  
13:52as an engineer. I didn't come to diplomacy in  a traditional way either and I've always taken  
13:58a scientific approach to the challenges that I  face. How can I create good processes? How can I  
14:06create an understanding of risk and opportunity?  And then how can I address those risks and take  
14:14advantage of those opportunities? And those are  transferable skills I think in any workspace.
14:20When we sit down in the next 10 years,  what do you hope Altérra becomes?
14:25I would really like to see Altérra be one  of the largest asset managers in the world,  
14:31that people continue to look at as the gold  standard when it comes to asset management,  
14:37responsible, impactful asset management.
14:40And I believe we can get there.