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How AI Is Breaking the Internet (and What to Do About It) | Matthew Prince | TED

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0:04The internet is an absolute miracle.
0:07And for the last 30 years,
0:09it has been driven by [a] very consistent
0:13and fundamental business model
0:15that has given us everything amazing about the internet
0:18and everything not so amazing as well.
0:21I run a company that provides a lot of the internet's infrastructure
0:25and as a result, means three things.
0:27One, we've had this unique view into what is going on online.
0:34Two, we care enormously about the success of the internet.
0:39And three, I can share with you
0:42some of how that underlying business model is changing
0:45and why it's important.
0:47Because as that business model changes,
0:49it's going to have a dramatic impact on what the internet is,
0:53but beyond that, on what content is created,
0:56on what journalists get compensated for,
0:58on how researchers are able to do their research.
1:01And so it's up to all of us
1:02as that business model of the internet changes,
1:05to make sure it changes for something we want
1:09and can learn from the mistakes that we had in the past.
1:12So to review the past, let's look at what that business model was.
1:15And we all know it basically, which was: the internet was built on
1:19we took an idea, and we put it online,
1:21and then we drove traffic to that idea.
1:25And then from that traffic, we either sold things,
1:28subscriptions or ads.
1:31And it's been pretty amazing to watch
1:34how that has very much driven the growth of the web
1:38and the growth of the internet over time.
1:40And it survived a number of dramatic platform shifts.
1:43We all started browsing the internet on browsers,
1:45on our desktop or laptop.
1:46That transitioned to be increasingly social media,
1:49which was the interface through which we consumed content.
1:53And then we went to consuming it through our mobile devices.
1:56And yet, through all of this,
1:58the humble banner ad has basically financed it all.
2:01Traffic has been the currency of the internet,
2:04and that's what everyone has built their content to try to achieve.
2:09And if we want to look for who's the Superman,
2:12who's the superhero that has driven this
2:15for the last 27 years,
2:17that has been Google.
2:19Google built not only the search engine to index how the internet works,
2:23but then they built the monetization system
2:26to actually ensure that content creators got paid
2:31for the traffic that they generated.
2:33The internet owes a ton to Google in the last 27 years.
2:37But the world is changing.
2:39AI is the topic du jour,
2:41and what I think a lot of people don't understand
2:43is that AI is yet another platform shift.
2:46Think about how much more of the way that you consume information already
2:50is looking at your AI chatbot,
2:52and how much more of that will be the case in the future.
2:55We can see it in a lot of things we do kind of normally,
2:58like, this is a Google search from the early days of Google.
3:02Not even that long ago,
3:03where I would type something in, like, when was the first TED conference?
3:07And then I would get back basically a treasure map
3:10where I would have to continue to do the work
3:12and click on the links, generating traffic
3:14to find what my answer was.
3:16The search wasn't over when the results returned.
3:19That was just the beginning, and you had to follow the treasure map.
3:22That's what a search engine is.
3:24Today we have something very different.
3:26We have something that's closer to what I would call an answer engine,
3:29where you're getting the answer directly on the page.
3:32And what's amazing about that is that as a consumer,
3:34it's better for you.
3:36But what's terrifying about it
3:38is that it means traffic isn't going to the publishers' sites,
3:42and traffic is the currency of the internet.
3:45And so 18 months ago, publishers called us and said, “Are you seeing this, too?”
3:49And I have to confess,
3:50we weren't really paying a ton of attention,
3:52but we went into our logs, we went into our data,
3:55we pulled out that information and said,
3:57“How much harder is it to get traffic
3:59based on the same amount of content today
4:02than it was with the Google of old?”
4:04And the answer is, it's 5.2 times harder
4:07to get traffic for the same amount of content that was out there.
4:10But that's the good news.
4:11That's with Google.
4:12What is it with OpenAI?
4:14750 times harder.
4:16What is it with Anthropic?
4:1732,000 times harder.
4:20The answer engines are giving the answers
4:22and people aren't following the footnotes.
4:24And this was 18 months ago.
4:26What’s happened since, has it gotten better or worse?
4:28Do you trust AI more today than you did 18 months ago?
4:32The answer is most people do, and as a result,
4:36it's actually gotten twice as hard to get traffic to content that's there.
4:40You're not following the footnotes anymore.
4:42You're actually trusting that AI systems are giving you the right answer,
4:45and that's destroying media.
4:46Across the board, we're seeing reported numbers
4:49... of between a 90 and 30 percent decline
4:52in the traffic to their sites,
4:54and this is extremely problematic
4:56because I think journalists deserve to be able to eat.
4:59(Applause)
5:01And fundamentally, if the internet is built on traffic
5:05and this new business model isn't delivering traffic,
5:09then I'm not sure how media is going to survive
5:12unless we create a new business model.
5:14And the good news is the AI companies want journalism.
5:18They want people out there doing research.
5:20We all want journalism.
5:21We want people out there doing research.
5:23And so I think, I'm actually kind of optimistic
5:26that there might be a solution to this problem.
5:29And here's the way I think about it.
5:30For the first time in human history,
5:32we have a mathematical model of all of human knowledge.
5:35It's not perfect, but that's essentially what all of the LLMs are.
5:39And I think of it like a giant block of Swiss cheese.
5:41There's a lot of cheese, that's what we know.
5:43But we also have a lot of holes in the cheese.
5:46Those are the things we don't know.
5:47And the thing that is incredible
5:49is that what all of you want, what I want,
5:51what the AI companies want
5:53is they want people out there filling in the holes in the cheese.
5:58They don’t want you writing stories that already exist --
6:01they want you actually creating new knowledge.
6:03And the AI companies, I've talked to every one of them,
6:05they're all willing to actually pay for people who are creating new knowledge,
6:09creating new ideas, ideas worth spreading.
6:12That's what this new system would reward.
6:14Compare that to what the business model of media is for the last 10 years,
6:20which is not filling in the holes in the cheese,
6:22but instead, basically, lighting the cheese on fire, right?
6:27Incendiary cheese, right?
6:29Yet another story about what happened at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue,
6:33told in the most inflammatory way possible.
6:35I've sat with media executives
6:36who brag about the fact that they create content for as little as possible,
6:41and then write headlines that create the largest cortisol response
6:45so that you will click on them.
6:47That's not a world we should be celebrating.
6:49That's not a world that's making the world better.
6:51If, on the other hand, we actually celebrated
6:54who is making the cheese bigger,
6:55who's filling in that --
6:57Imagine in the future that you actually had AI companies
7:00that were measuring
7:01who actually advanced human knowledge mathematically
7:04over the course of the last year the most,
7:06and we gave them an award.
7:08We could call it the Big Cheese award.
7:09(Laughter)
7:11I'm not kidding.
7:12Like, how amazing would that be?
7:13And you might be thinking, OK, Matthew, you're crazy.
7:16Like, I'm the person who thinks AI is just destroying the world,
7:19and technology always makes things worse.
7:21I'm going to share just two anecdotes that make me have some hope
7:24that this might actually be the case.
7:26The first starts 23 years ago.
7:2823 years ago, the music industry had a huge problem:
7:30Napster, Kazaa -- everyone was stealing music.
7:33And then Steve Jobs stepped on stage, almost 23 years ago to this day,
7:37and he said, “We’re going to do something different.
7:39We're going to charge 99 cents per song.
7:41We're going to actually say that you should be paying
7:44for the music that you consume.”
7:45Now that’s not the business model that won,
7:47but it was the start, and it turned into what is today Spotify
7:51and all the other systems that are out there,
7:53which is basically $10 a month, all-you-can-eat music,
7:56and it's pretty amazing.
7:57Last year, Spotify alone sent over $10 billion to music creators
8:03in revenue.
8:05And again, that's in addition to titles, TikToks, YouTube,
8:09Apple Music, everybody else,
8:12more money is going to music creation than any time in human history.
8:15So technology can be pie-expanding.
8:18In fact, I thought it was so important
8:20that I flew up to Stockholm to meet with Daniel Ek,
8:23the founder of Spotify, and he said, "You know, it's pretty amazing.
8:26We know when someone goes to Spotify and they type in Taylor Swift,
8:30"Shake It Off"
8:31that we can give them what they're looking for."
8:33But every once in a while, someone comes in
8:35and types in something like,
8:37'I want a song about how much fun it is to dance disco with your cat.'
8:40(Laughter)
8:41And nobody's written that.
8:44But they know that nobody's written that.
8:46And so they actually go back and take those queries
8:48and then publish them back to music creators.
8:50And this is the moment you're all going to think you're doing life wrong.
8:54But there's a guy who lives in Denmark
8:56who makes €40 million a year
8:57writing songs for unfulfilled Spotify queries.
9:00(Laughter)
9:02And I think that's beautiful.
9:04That's filling the holes in the cheese.
9:06Because when I look for a song,
9:07what I'm looking for is an emotion.
9:09And this person is helping me find a song to resonate that way.
9:12And I think that's a model for what could happen as well.
9:15Another story starts a little bit closer to home.
9:17So this is the Park Record newspaper.
9:22The first place I ever saw my name in print --
9:25my hometown newspaper from Park City, Utah.
9:27It was dying.
9:28So three years ago, my wife and I bought it.
9:31We did not buy it because we thought it was going to be a great business.
9:35We bought it because we thought local news was important.
9:37In fact, we had no financial KPIs --
9:39the only KPI we focused on was how much could we increase voter turnout.
9:43And the answer was, we got it from the low 20 percent to over 60 percent
9:46in the last election in three years,
9:48which is amazing, right?
9:49(Applause)
9:51Local news matters.
9:52But here's the crazy part.
9:55Terrible business, right?
9:57Except it's not.
9:58We're likely going to make more in 2026
10:02off licensing our content to AI companies
10:04than we do off digital advertising. Why?
10:06Because if you're traveling to Park City, Utah,
10:08and you want to know what's the great new restaurant,
10:11what's the cool band that's coming to town,
10:13we're the only ones that have it.
10:15So think about how amazing that would be.
10:17Think about how if in the future,
10:18the business model of the new AI-driven internet
10:21actually rewards the media we're all craving,
10:24local, unique, original content.
10:27That's what I'm super excited about.
10:29But there are problems.
10:31Challenges.
10:32It's kind of like in the superhero films,
10:35where the hero of the last movie becomes the villain of the next.
10:39And so our good friends at Google ...
10:42Ugh.
10:43(Laughter)
10:44They are holding this back.
10:46They believe that they have a God-given right
10:49to all of the content online.
10:50They shouldn't have to pay for any of it.
10:52And they have a huge advantage.
10:54In fact, it's hard to believe this,
10:55but every other AI company was actually started
10:58to oppose Google, right?
10:59That’s what OpenAI started with.
11:01Anthropic was just a spinoff of OpenAI, xAI.
11:03All of this was all to say, we can't let Google win this entire game.
11:07How much of an advantage do they have?
11:08Well we looked at this again,
11:10and we found that every single page that OpenAI sees,
11:13Google sees three.
11:15Four in Microsoft’s case,
11:18five in Anthropic's case,
11:1921 or 22 in xAI's case.
11:22An enormous advantage that Google has,
11:25and they want to hold on to that advantage.
11:27In fact, they're playing incredibly dirty.
11:29They're saying to content creators,
11:31"You can't stop us from training on your content
11:34or we will take you out of search."
11:37Horrible.
11:38Superman, how far you’ve fallen!
11:40(Laughter)
11:42And so I was pretty depressed, I have to confess,
11:45thinking we were on the cusp of creating something amazing:
11:48a better internet.
11:51And yet, I have to just realize that no AI company's top priority
11:56is paying content creators.
11:58What's their top priority?
12:01Beating Google.
12:03Which gave me an idea.
12:05Kind of a wonderful idea.
12:08An idea which is going on right now, and it's working.
12:10Which is:
12:12don’t charge for all the content that’s out there,
12:14just charge the AI companies for the ability to catch Google.
12:19And I don't think that's the end game,
12:21but I think it might be the iTunes moment.
12:23It might be the point that shows us content is worth paying for.
12:27Everyone should be out there,
12:28and we can create a better business model for the internet.
12:31And so I'm hopeful that on this stage, not too long from now,
12:35I get to hand out one of the first Big Cheese awards,
12:37and I really appreciate it.
12:38Thank you.