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0:00this is the largest plane that has ever
0:02landed at this rather small airport it's
0:05an older shorter Wing tipless variant of
0:08the 737 configured to operate as a
0:10private jet for a Texas oil company and
0:12it just barely fits under the airport's
0:14maximum width requirements unless
0:16something changes and soon it will
0:19retain that largest Landing record
0:22forever that's because this airport just
0:255 minutes out of the famous glitzy ski
0:27town of Aspen is stuck in limbo between
0:30ultimatum by the federal government and
0:31a local voter base reluctant to give in
0:34to Washington's demands Aspen is known
0:36for many things great skiing
0:38Cosmopolitan amenities celebrity
0:40sightings long considered one of North
0:43America's Premier ski destinations it's
0:45home to Michelin star restaurants and
0:47seemingly far over indexed in designer
0:49stores for a town of less than 10,000
0:51permanent residents yet while the town
0:53has grown in a claim population and
0:55opulence over the decades the Aspen
0:57picking County airport has remained
1:00largely the same its Passenger Terminal
1:02once acclaimed as the first building in
1:04the US to use passive solar heating
1:06opened in 1976 and hasn't changed much
1:09since its Runway meanwhile was last
1:12widened in
1:141983 and it's this very element that's
1:17Central to its current Quagmire for
1:19decades this Runway and the idea of
1:22making it bigger has been a point of
1:24local contention 30 years ago a proposed
1:27expansion failed in part because of
1:28widespread fear and loow clothing
1:30towards bringing bigger planes here
1:31specifically 737s largely voiced and led
1:34by the famous Gonzo journalist Hunter
1:36Thompson this created a problem without
1:39expansion the airport couldn't allow
1:40bigger newer planes and the planes it
1:43could allow weren't enough to meet
1:44growing demand and the changing Fleet
1:46mixes of commercial airlines so in 1999
1:49the Federal Aviation Administration
1:51approved a modification of standards
1:53that allow the airport to operate as a
1:55Design Group 3 airport essentially
1:57permitting it to operate with planes
1:59larger than the physical layout of the
2:00airport would normally allow but they'd
2:02have to add some caveats you see Aspen
2:05Airport is nestled in a narrow Valley
2:078,000 ft or 2500 m above sea level that
2:11makes it the second highest commercial
2:12airport in the US flat land barely
2:16exists here in the middle of the Rocky
2:17Mountains as most formidable Peaks
2:20flaish land was artificially leveled to
2:22create the airport in the first place
2:24but the spot used is still stuck between
2:26mountains to the west and a river to the
2:28east so under those con TR the
2:30separation between the airport's taxiway
2:32and Runway is just 320 ft or 100 m far
2:36less than the 400 or 120 normally
2:38required for an airport to earn a Design
2:40Group 3 classification to maintain safe
2:43separation between planes on the taxi
2:45way and planes on the runway the FAA
2:47therefore requires that the airport caps
2:49its maximum wingspan at 95 ft or 29 M
2:53rather than the typical 118 allowed in
2:55Design Group 3 95 ft is not much in
2:59terms of aircraft wingspans it excludes
3:01every single Mainline aircraft in United
3:04American and Delta's fleets and plenty
3:06of regional Jets as well but there are
3:08plenty of other constraints too imposed
3:10by the unique geography surrounding the
3:12airport combined with the thin high
3:14altitude air for example aircraft needs
3:16certain high performance capabilities to
3:18ensure they're able to safely clear the
3:20mountains to the south of the runway
3:21when conducting an aborted landing at
3:23the last minute due to wind shear or
3:25other issues similarly commercial pilots
3:28need special training to operate in set
3:29terrain and with all the exceptional
3:31features of the airport for example
3:33uniquely departing aircraft take off
3:36towards Landing aircraft rather than
3:38away like at almost every other
3:40commercial airport and those inbound
3:42aircraft descend at a rather dramatic
3:44rate of up to 6% rather than the 3% more
3:47commonly used so in practice combining
3:51all these constraints the aircraft and
3:53Airlines operating an aspen have been
3:55narrowed down to one and one the crj700
3:59by Sky West Airlines Sky West is then a
4:03subcontractor that operates flights
4:04under the Delta American or United
4:06brands on their behalf but despite all
4:09its uniqueness at the end of the day
4:11bureaucratically Aspen Airport is just
4:13another one of the 5200 public use
4:16airports in the US Each of which are
4:18regulated and overseen by the Federal
4:20Aviation Administration every one of
4:22those public use airports is part of the
4:24wide network of the national integrated
4:26plan of airports which makes them
4:27eligible for federal money the the FAA
4:30funds in two ways first through
4:32entitlements which is money D out to all
4:35airports based on traffic and the
4:36federal piece of the pie they are
4:38entitled to receive and then
4:39discretionary which comes in the form of
4:41Grants and selective funding since 1982
4:44the Aspen Airport has received
4:46$116.5 million from the FAA and in the
4:49past two years $12 million has been
4:51allocated just for Runway repairs and of
4:54course there are strings attached to the
4:56money that the FAA gives in this case
4:59there called Grant assurances it's in
5:02this 20page document that the agency
5:04lays out its desires to make sure its
5:06Investments are solid and also funding
5:08projects the way they want them to be
5:10funded for example number 19 says the
5:13airport will operate in a quote safe and
5:15serviceable system this has proved a
5:18problem for Aspen because it's Runway
5:20it's single Runway that Services all
5:22traffic both inbound and outbound is
5:25teetering on unsafe it closed for 2
5:28weeks in May 202 2 then another two in
5:312023 for repaving projects on the
5:33taxiway and Runway that were completed
5:35to meet the faa's grant obligations at
5:38the time officials pulled out a 14-in
5:40Runway core sample and the bottom 7 in
5:42of it fell apart when it was extracted
5:44indicating not only surface issues but
5:47confirming subgradient degradation
5:50especially in the area of the runway
5:51where planes typically land then in 2024
5:55the runway closed for three more weeks
5:56for more repairs crack Sealing repaving
5:59and pavement replacement in specific
6:01areas like here and here airports
6:04constantly undergo maintenance with
6:05major hubs repaving their own runways
6:07nearly every decade but typically this
6:09is done at night and staggered in phases
6:12to maintain at least some operations
6:14shutting down entirely like in Pickin
6:17county is far rare but because the
6:20repairs are primarily superficial future
6:22extended closures and unexpected ones
6:25are all but guaranteed if the runway is
6:27not fully replaced the FAA doesn't want
6:30to keep doing this in fact they've said
6:33this outright quote with the expenditure
6:35of $18.5 million on Runway maintenance
6:38we will not invest additional funding to
6:40maintain the existing Runway and taxiway
6:42pavement the next FAA investment will be
6:45to reconstruct the runway in the
6:46location shown on the approved Alp
6:49basically they're not going to give any
6:51more money to fix the runway they'll
6:54only pay to replace it but the county
6:56has a plan for this it's called the
6:59airplan layout plan in fact its approved
7:02Alp the one currently filed with the FAA
7:05who approves all Alps included a new
7:07green terminal with fewer Gates a sound
7:09burm increased parking and a widen
7:11Runway with a separation of 400 ft from
7:14the taxi way compared to the existing
7:15320 ft these plans were approved by
7:19County Commissioners in 2015 and then by
7:21the FAA in 2016 but what should have
7:24been case closed and development plans
7:26put into place was then really only the
7:29beginning it's all down to these 80 ft
7:34that's because with 400t separation the
7:36airport would get upgraded to a full
7:38Design Group 3 status no modification of
7:41Standards necessary therefore any
7:44aircraft with a wingspan under 118 ft
7:46could fly here without restriction so if
7:49they wanted to and performance
7:51characteristics allowed United Airlines
7:53for example could start flying
7:54comparatively massive 737s to Aspen
7:58regardless of any sort of local
7:59legislation nothing could stop the
8:01airline as the FAA prohibits any sort of
8:04discrimination of aircraft type beyond
8:06that necessary due to the physical
8:07constraints of an airport this is the
8:10potential future that has residents up
8:12in arms locally a hot button debate has
8:15set off between the two Futures one
8:18where the runway and taxiway stay where
8:19they are and one where they're moved 80
8:21ft further apart the core of onsides
8:25argument is the simple fact that the fa
8:27has intimated that a lack of
8:28Redevelopment would mean the airport
8:30quote would never receive additional FAA
8:32funding but outside of the faa's demands
8:35there are other potential benefits to
8:37allowing bigger planes when picking
8:39County surveyed community members for
8:40what they wanted in a new airport a key
8:43goal was reducing greenhouse gas
8:45emissions in fact community members
8:47suggested negotiating with the FAA and
8:49Airlines to only bring airplanes with
8:51lower carbon emissions and noise
8:53pollution than the
8:54crj700 supporters argue that allowing
8:56wider wingspans is essential for
8:58reducing greenhouse gas gas emissions
9:00altogether and that it's not even clear
9:02the 737s can handle flying in and out of
9:04Aspen the current preferred replacement
9:06for the crj700 the Embraer 175 is a
9:09class 3 jet that can theoretically land
9:12here under the modification of Standards
9:14after a long process of certification
9:16and software modifications to gain the
9:17performance characteristics needed for
9:19operation here United has announced it
9:21will begin service to Aspen on the e175
9:23in Winter 2024 but this aircraft type is
9:26more polluting than the
9:27crj700 so proponents argue that bigger
9:30wingspans could allow commercial
9:32carriers to introduce better models to
9:34the market the Airbus a220 for example
9:37has a slightly bigger passenger load
9:38than the Embraer and could boast less
9:40than half of the per passenger mile
9:43carbon emissions than the
9:44crj700 moreover it's a newer airplane
9:47model that's quieter than the crj700 and
9:50might offer Aspen access to further
9:52markets thanks to its longer range both
9:55sides do ultimately agree that the
9:57airport's terminal should be upgraded
9:59currently up to eight Jets can sit on
10:01the ground simultaneously and the new
10:03terminal proposal won't increase its
10:05size in fact it could have room for six
10:07or eight Jets depending on the size
10:10that's because community members and
10:11picking County officials recommended
10:13introducing Flex gates to the terminal
10:15essentially the terminal could scale
10:17down to accommodate bigger Jets like the
10:19Airbus a220 which would occupy two
10:21spaces or scale up for smaller Jets by
10:24limiting the number of commercial jets
10:25that would come through here this new
10:27terminal would limit the airport's
10:29commerci commercial service capacity
10:30regardless of the faa's access
10:32requirements which has made it amable to
10:34a broader audience it's a rare winwin
10:37win proposal a new terminal could
10:39support Aspen's environmentalist ethos
10:41improve passengers airport experience
10:43and intuitively limit the airport's
10:45traffic all of which has made it a rare
10:47point of consensus among the airport
10:49stakeholders but that's where consensus
10:52ends leading the opposition is a group
10:54called Aspen fly right this organization
10:57contends that the county doesn't
10:59actually need to build a bigger airport
11:01it could just build a better one Aspen
11:04flyght is concerned about the effect
11:06those 80 ft would have on noise
11:08pollution and eventual crowding as
11:10development potentially creeps up in the
11:11Aspen area as more people are flown in
11:14they question the need for a bigger
11:15airport and the motives behind it after
11:18all GF stream 650s which have a wingspan
11:20of 99 ft would be newly granted access
11:23to Aspen if the airport is widened and
11:25the 650s are popular among Aspen's Elite
11:28with some new news outlets reporting
11:30that more than 30 people with real
11:31estate ties to the area are also owners
11:34of the $60 million plane taxpayers don't
11:37need a foot the bill for larger private
11:38planes to access Aspen the group says
11:41they think the private Flyers should do
11:42so instead of relocating the runway
11:45Aspen flyright argues that the county
11:47could simply replace the current one in
11:49its spot continue with status quo
11:51modification of standards and in the
11:53lynchpin of the argument do it all
11:55without Federal funding to do so they
11:57say the county could take over the
11:59operations of the airport's fixed Bas
12:00operator essentially the facilities used
12:02for private jets from Atlantic Aviation
12:05who runs the lucrative business right
12:06now and earn1 19 to $20 million per year
12:09more than enough to fund repairs and
12:11future improvements the idea of
12:13operating a commercial airport in
12:14America without FAA funding is
12:17essentially unheard of the idea of an
12:19american commercial airport being a
12:21profitable Venture without outside money
12:23is essentially
12:24unprecedented but the idea of operating
12:26your own FBO isn't all Aspen needs to do
12:30is look to Jackson Wyoming its northern
12:32counterpart with similar Trends in air
12:34traffic and management most specifically
12:37a massively High ratio of private jet
12:39operations to commercial ones its County
12:41purchased the private Aviation side of
12:43its airport for $26 million and assumed
12:46operations upon purchase this year it's
12:48projected to earn $5 million in Revenue
12:51according to County budget reports so
12:53the situation that Aspen flyright
12:55proposes playing chicken with the FAA
12:58would be unprecedent
12:59but on the other hand if anyone could
13:01make this unprecedented scenario work it
13:04would be Aspen well on the commercial
13:06side it's a fairly small Regional
13:08Airport it sees some of the highest
13:10private jet traffic of any airport in
13:12the world beating the numbers of
13:14countless cities orders of magnitude
13:17larger and Aspen flyght isn't the only
13:20group fighting against the expanded
13:21layout there's also citizens against
13:24bigger planes whereas fly right's tactic
13:26is to function as a nonprofit that
13:28advocates for its preferred
13:29Redevelopment alternative citizens
13:31against bigger planes wants the
13:32electorate the roughly 13,000 registered
13:35voters in Aspen Snowmass Woody Creek and
13:37Beyond to help make the choice and to do
13:39that they've put it on the November
13:41ballot the group collected enough
13:43signatures for a successful citizen
13:45petition that asks to amend the County's
13:47Charter taking away the county
13:49commissioner's right to approve the
13:50runway expansion and instead handing
13:52that decision to the voters making them
13:55the only ones with the power to approve
13:57an expansion but not to be outdone or
13:59see their power stripped the board of
14:01County Commissioners mounted their own
14:02defense by drafting ballot language that
14:04amends the same county Charter to
14:06reaffirm their exclusive authority to
14:08approve Runway expansion essentially
14:10there are two competing and
14:12contradictory ballot measures so there's
14:14a vote to maintain the status quo and a
14:16vote to set up another vote
14:19simultaneously there's a web of
14:20competing interests Beyond The Duo of
14:22anti-expansion groups there's a third
14:24the Coalition for a 21st century airport
14:27comprised of local leaders former
14:28Council and commissioner members and
14:30business Executives in favor of the
14:31approval of the updated Alp with the
14:33widen separation and on top of that
14:36there's accusations of misinformation by
14:38all sides and disagreement on basic
14:40facts for example each side postures
14:43that their vision for the future will
14:44lead to lower emissions and less noise
14:46pollution while nobody can agree on
14:48whether the current modification of
14:49standards would be removed and the
14:51airport downgraded if the runway were
14:52rebuilt in place the voter base
14:55meanwhile is faced with a deluge of
14:57Highly technical information relating to
14:59the intricacies of FAA grant funding
15:02Alps aircraft design groups and more if
15:05it all seems confusing it is there are
15:08facts and then there are feelings behind
15:10the facts and ultimately it's a tricky
15:12decision between a certain future with
15:14what some considered undesired
15:15consequences or an uncertain one with
15:17unknown
15:19consequences as the electorate waits to
15:21decide on their preferred path forward
15:23the implications of an action are
15:25mounting up for example the second
15:28closest maj Airline Hub to Aspen behind
15:30United's in Denver is Deltas in Salt
15:33Lake City back in 2019 the airline
15:35operated as many as three flights a day
15:37from the city allowing easy
15:39geographically convenient access to the
15:41broader Delta network but come 2020 and
15:44the co pandemic the airline cut service
15:46to Aspen altogether as it elected to
15:48ground its crj700 Fleet as a cost-saving
15:50measure leaving no aircraft left in its
15:53Fleet to service the airport while
15:55service has since returned the airline
15:56has been steadily reducing its crj7 100
15:59Fleet and has cited this as to why it no
16:01longer Services Aspen from Salt Lake
16:03City rather only the less geographically
16:05convenient Los Angeles in Atlanta hubs
16:08while this issue could theoretically be
16:09rectified with the upcoming introduction
16:11of e175 service to Aspen other
16:14consequences are permanent for example
16:17in September the airport missed out on a
16:19slice of $100 million in federal funding
16:21that could have been used to reduce the
16:23cost of Redevelopment since the FAA
16:25considered them ineligible for the grant
16:27due to a lack of an approved alp
16:29and the lack of an Alp in funding
16:31therefore means the runway is continuing
16:33to degrade airport leadership has said
16:36that the longer they go without a
16:37replacement the more frequent the
16:38closures for maintenance could become
16:40and the less predictable the closures
16:41would be this opens up the potential
16:44that maintenance would need to happen
16:46not in the spring or fall off Seasons
16:48when tourists are rare but perhaps in
16:50the midst of winter cutting off tourist
16:52access and therefore cutting out the
16:54core of the area's economy the tale of
16:57Aspen airports is a familiar one in
16:59America federal and state governments
17:01are substantially responsible for
17:03infrastructure development in this
17:04country and they believe they know best
17:07but there are plenty of instances where
17:09these larger forms of government have
17:10gotten it wrong interstates bifurcating
17:13communities in two or dams that create
17:15environmental catastrophes local
17:17electorates also believe they know best
17:20about what infrastructure is best in
17:21their local area but there are also
17:24plenty of instances where they've got it
17:26wrong train lines rerouted far beyond
17:28the direct path or parking spots
17:29prioritized over bike Lanes but through
17:32the process of sorting through the
17:33dispute of who has it right and wrong
17:36everyone can lose in Aspen everyone
17:39wants a new terminal everyone wants a
17:41rebuilt runway yet neither can happen
17:43until the county can decide on the full
17:45plan what's going on right now sounds on
17:48the surface like the right thing to do
17:50is the process of determining which
17:52version of this piece of infrastructure
17:53is going to make the most number of
17:55people happy but in a scenario where
17:57everyone can lose it poses a question as
17:59to who and how many should be involved
18:02in determining the best path forward
18:04whatever the answer is it appears When
18:06comparing the state of this country's
18:08airports Bridges transit systems and
18:10more to those around the world that
18:12whatever the American answer is it just
18:14isn't the right
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18:19picking County are just one small part
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